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the majority of Palestinians DONT want to leave, im a bit confused why so many people expect them just to get up and leave their ancestral homes.


Why would you decide for the Palestinians what they want?
Shame on you.



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Was Netanyahu "genociding" them before Oct 7? And was all the raping, butchering and hostage-taking on Oct 7 also part of "fighting back"?


The situation in Gaza and the West Bank wasn't great before Oct 7, and the Israelis surely aren't guilt-free. Nonetheless, nothing about the situation justified Hamas going fully medieval. You can't justify one of the worst bloodbaths in modern human history with self-defense. And without the Oct 7 attack, this whole Gaza war and all the suffering which followed from it wouldn't have happened to begin with.


To me, it seems clear that the plan has always been to pursue Greater Israel. So, in a way: Yes.
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As snipa already said, Hitler's plan for resettling the Jewish population never amounted to much. .


wrong!


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In the 1930s, before the horrors of the Holocaust began, the Nazis pursued policies that would force Jews to emigrate from Germany, rather than immediately resorting to violence.

One of the primary strategies was the Nazi policy of "Judenrein" (meaning "clean of Jews") which sought to remove Jews from German society. This was part of Hitler's broader vision of creating a "racially pure" state. However, rather than immediately resorting to violent methods, the Nazis initially used coercion and legal pressure to encourage Jews to leave.


By 1939, it is estimated that approximately 250,000 Jews had left Germany, fleeing primarily to countries like the United States, Palestine (then under British mandate), and other parts of Europe. These emigrations were driven by a combination of factors, including the early anti-Semitic laws and policies of the Nazi regime, such as the Nuremberg Laws (1935), as well as widespread fear of what might come next.

The emigration slowed after the war began in 1939 due to tightened border controls and restrictions on emigration. After that, most Jews were unable to leave, and the situation deteriorated rapidly.


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To me, it seems clear that the plan has always been to pursue Greater Israel. So, in a way: Yes.


yep. its quite frankly amazing that some people argue this.
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yep. its quite frankly amazing that some people argue this.

Sadly enough, I think after all those years, this solution is more sensible than another half-assed one with two states. I mean by now it's clear, no one in the arabic world gives two fucks about Gaza. They are just used as a tool against Israel. Palestinians themselves have been living in an open air prison their whole life. Their leadership adopted the life style of parasites: attack Israel from time to time, claim victimhood, bank international fonds/help meant for the average people. To continue the flow, they refuse to recognize Israel as a state and want the whole Israel demolished. At the same time, they don't have the means to get rid of Israel of fight it in a meaningful way. Instead, they let generation after generation of their people become useless humans with only purpose being terrorism with no perspectives. The Jews themselves left Israel when they couldn't fight anymore. They didn't become suicide terrorists.
Disclaimer: I am not claiming Israel is right to landgrab but you have to think about the people at some point. Israel's hardliners also use Gaza as a mean to stay in power.

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To me, it seems clear that the plan has always been to pursue Greater Israel. So, in a way: Yes.


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the majority of Palestinians DONT want to leave, im a bit confused why so many people expect them just to get up and leave their ancestral homes.


You dont know that

To me, it seems clear that the plan has always been to pursue Greater Israel. So, in a way: Yes.


We have interest in greater Israel

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. I mean by now it's clear, no one in the arabic world gives two fucks about Gaza.


Thats obviously not true. Just cause jordan and egypt wont accept 2 million gazans into their territory, it doesnt mean that arabs have turned a blind eye to the suffering of the gazan people.

The houthis especially did alot of heavy lifting against israel. They stood up to the combined might of uncle sam and friends aswell. Gazans are willing to pay the price in blood for what they perceive as their rightful soil; this is a foreign concept to most Westerners who sit by and idly watch as their homelands get invaded by doctors and engineers.

I got more respect for gazans than the entire western world combined

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Thats obviously not true. Just cause jordan and egypt wont accept 2 million gazans into their territory, it doesnt mean that arabs have turned a blind eye to the suffering of the gazan people.

The houthis especially did alot of heavy lifting against israel. They stood up to the combined might of uncle sam and friends aswell. Gazans are willing to pay the price in blood for what they perceive as their rightful soil; this is a foreign concept to most Westerners who sit by and idly watch as their homelands get invaded by doctors and engineers.

I got more respect for gazans than the entire western world combined


Launching rockets is not heavy lifting
We were laughing at them

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