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Feb 6 2025 05:11pm
DOGE isn't going to get anything major done unless they can cut trillions. Not the millions they found.

Unless the US starts exporting more its really wasted effort

1. Debt keeps going up
2. Debt ceiling keeps getting raised
3. Debt eventually outpaces GDP
4. US credit rating takes a massive hit
5. US currency devaluation
6. Hyperinflation
7. Your eggs now cost $30 for a carton of 12

Everyone is mad
Repeat until bankrupt
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Feb 6 2025 05:14pm
Just buy chickens at this point.
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Feb 6 2025 05:30pm
DOGE isn't going to get anything major done unless they can cut trillions. Not the millions they found.

Unless the US starts exporting more its really wasted effort

1. Debt keeps going up
2. Debt ceiling keeps getting raised
3. Debt eventually outpaces GDP
4. US credit rating takes a massive hit
5. US currency devaluation
6. Hyperinflation
7. Your eggs now cost $30 for a carton of 12

Everyone is mad
Repeat until bankrupt


They have cut 60 billion so far.
What you have posted has been baked into the pie since 1913.
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Feb 6 2025 05:54pm
Runaway spending= bad

It's completely unjustified. We've said it before, USAID is just one aspect of the cuts that's getting a ton of publicity because some of that spend was truly monumentally corrupt. Here's the federal budget by year since 2019. Why should the American people accept over 60% increase in budget since 2019? What services or benefits can you point to since 2019 that you could say you're better off? Covid is long gone, so why does the government continue to spend at this elevated level? No one saying get back to a budget of 4-5 trillion, but why not at least try to at least make some headway into the deficit?



I’m not advocating for “runaway” spending. Again the us I think undeniably spends too much money.

I’m just cynical about the process since there doesn’t seem to really be a plan for basically anything.

Again maybe there is good that comes of this. But again, I just don’t agree that if spending is bad any spending cuts without any plan or acknowledgment of any consequences, then claim victory and move on is by default good. Everything has appeared highly performative to this point.

Which maybe I shouldn’t be surprised, that’s what politics is these days, which is really what DOGE appears to be doing, just playing at politics like everyone else.
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Feb 6 2025 05:59pm

You can't audit payments without looking at them. They are not authorized to change anything. The journalist was fishing for stuff that wasn't there. She was a Kamala voter fosho :lol:

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You can't audit payments without looking at them. They are not authorized to change anything.:


No authorized. But will advocate.
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Feb 6 2025 06:09pm
I’m not advocating for “runaway” spending. Again the us I think undeniably spends too much money.

I’m just cynical about the process since there doesn’t seem to really be a plan for basically anything.

Again maybe there is good that comes of this. But again, I just don’t agree that if spending is bad any spending cuts without any plan or acknowledgment of any consequences, then claim victory and move on is by default good. Everything has appeared highly performative to this point.

Which maybe I shouldn’t be surprised, that’s what politics is these days, which is really what DOGE appears to be doing, just playing at politics like everyone else.


The situation is hopeless when the first semi-serious attempt at cuts is met with a chorus of why cuts bad, why the wont work, why orange man bad, why African man bad, why it's all just some underhand way to steal info, why it's just another way to steal money, it's just political show, it's just some billionaire trying to steal power and on and on. I mean look at this thread, microcosm of this determinism

If people are so up in arms about 0.5% then what chance do we have at serious cuts to save SS or the dollar? So then should we just expect that the dollar with be devalued to nothing? should we just accept that interest payments on debt will literally eat away all other discretionary spending? Should i just accept now that i shouldn't expect to retire and should plan on working until 80? Or that my kids will be poor simply because our generation gave up on trying to make the world a better place for them?

To me this deterministic view is complete loser mentality. It's like having a friend that ran up his credit cards and is paying the minimum balance for years. And you go to him and recommend hey instead of spending 40 bucks on takeout everyday use that money to pay down your debt slowly and they just tell you it's hopeless so why even try.

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No authorized. But will advocate.


To be correct, the congress ratifies the budget.

Forbes is emerging as a normal MSM outlet:


They post complete interviews instead of snippets with comments.
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Feb 6 2025 06:16pm
The situation is hopeless when the first semi-serious attempt at cuts is met with a chorus of why cuts bad, why the wont work, why orange man bad, why African man bad, why it's all just some underhand way to steal info, why it's just another way to steal money, it's just political show, it's just some billionaire trying to steal power and on and on. I mean look at this thread, microcosm of this determinism

If people are so up in arms about 0.5% then what chance do we have at serious cuts to save SS or the dollar? So then should we just expect that the dollar with be devalued to nothing? should we just accept that interest payments on debt will literally eat away all other discretionary spending? Should i just accept now that i shouldn't expect to retire and should plan on working until 80? Or that my kids will be poor simply because our generation gave up on trying to make the world a better place for them?

To me this deterministic view is complete loser mentality. It's like having a friend that ran up his credit cards and is paying the minimum balance for years. And you go to him and recommend hey instead of spending 40 bucks on takeout everyday use that money to pay down your debt slowly and they just tell you it's hopeless so why even try.


what they dont realize is we need to trigger this at some point. the short term pain will be felt but if its felt by everyone it shares the burden and gives the chance to build a much more sustainable model that can hedge against something like this happening again.

take canada for instance, the entire housing market and real estate is secured against fentanyl drug trafficking and money laundering through our banks. id happily have somebody come in, shut it down, shut down immigration, shut down drugs, deport all of these unproductive western hating freeloaders, to build a sustainable economy focused on long term growth, sustainability, and protecting sovereignty - even if it means my house value loses 250k + because i know that long term investments in our resources would easily make up for these artificial gains. the fact that saudi is so rich and we buy oil from russia and saudis while they finance terrorist activities is ridiculous.
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Feb 6 2025 06:18pm
The situation is hopeless when the first semi-serious attempt at cuts is met with a chorus of why cuts bad, why the wont work, why orange man bad, why African man bad, why it's all just some underhand way to steal info, why it's just another way to steal money, it's just political show, it's just some billionaire trying to steal power and on and on. I mean look at this thread, microcosm of this determinism

If people are so up in arms about 0.5% then what chance do we have at serious cuts to save SS or the dollar? So then should we just expect that the dollar with be devalued to nothing? should we just accept that interest payments on debt will literally eat away all other discretionary spending? Should i just accept now that i shouldn't expect to retire and should plan on working until 80? Or that my kids will be poor simply because our generation gave up on trying to make the world a better place for them?

To me this deterministic view is complete loser mentality. It's like having a friend that ran up his credit cards and is paying the minimum balance for years. And you go to him and recommend hey instead of spending 40 bucks on takeout everyday use that money to pay down your debt slowly and they just tell you it's hopeless so why even try.


Lol your friend should look at their spending and cut where he can. What he shouldn’t do is put all of his spending categories on a pinwheel and spin to randomly cut something from his budget and pretend that fixes the problem.

I’m not against cuts. It would just be nice if they acted like there was a plan to anything.
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