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Feb 6 2025 12:12pm
whats with all the objections to hitler's plan of voluntary Jewish immigration from Germany?
where are all the good conservatives who claimed to love democracy and hate fascism?


hitler didnt really have one. there was a pretty short period where the Nazis tried to scare jews out of the country, with some moderate success, but the % of the population wasn't nearly large enough to please the upper brass. so they drafted a plan to forcibly export all of them, specifically to Madigascar or another uninhabited area. once they crunched the numbers they found it was cheaper to kill them all then export them, sadly.

i am a bit confused why many people seem upset at the idea that Palestinians may want to immigrate away from a hellish landscape to safer places tho. its almost like their continued presence there has a nefarious motivation. of course that's been clear for a long time since the Arab nations all agreed to never accept refugees from the region for resettlement.

what a mess, i hope any and every person who wants to leave Gaza finds a way to. i dont think any person deserves to live in a place that bad.
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i am a bit confused why many people seem upset at the idea that Palestinians may want to immigrate away from a hellish landscape to safer places tho. its almost like their continued presence there has a nefarious motivation. of course that's been clear for a long time since the Arab nations all agreed to never accept refugees from the region for resettlement.


the majority of Palestinians DONT want to leave, im a bit confused why so many people expect them just to get up and leave their ancestral homes.
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Feb 6 2025 12:18pm
the majority of Palestinians DONT want to leave, im a bit confused why so many people expect them just to get up and leave their ancestral homes.


according to a recent poll it was something like 25% wanted to leave, pre-war. post war i'd guess it's up, not down, but speculation.

i dont really buy this "ancestral home" narrative. sure, for some, a palestinian identity for a person who remains in palestine means a lot. so much so they'd even stay if they and their kids are in danger of dying. but for many more they're happy to identify as palestinian anywhere on the globe that their kids wont get blown up. i know some palestinians and they left for this very reason. they're still very pro-palestine and anti-israel, totally understandable. but in the context of immigrate or stay its not as if you have to stop being an ethnicity or even advocating for them if you leave. that's basically the american story in a nutshell, waves of immigrants came for safety despite a love of the homeland and set up insulated communities to act as miniature versions of their homeland. little italy, china town, the irish quarter, etc.
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Feb 6 2025 12:55pm
Oh, I guess its story time ! ( i was asked to respond and thought a little bed time story would cover my views ).

In a world not so different from our own, the tides of history had turned in ways few could have imagined. The land once known as Israel, a place of ancient heritage and modern strife, had become the epicenter of a tragedy that echoed across the globe. But this time, the roles were reversed. It was the year 2045, and the once-powerful state of Israel had been reduced to a shadow of its former self. Decades of conflict, shifting alliances, and the rise of a powerful Muslim empire had reshaped the balance of power in the Middle East. The empire, backed by vast resources and unwavering global influence, had declared its intent to create a "pure" region, free of what it called "foreign elements." The Jewish people, who had once sought refuge and built a nation, were now the targets of a systematic campaign of displacement and erasure. The world watched in silence as the empire’s forces swept through the region. Towns and cities were emptied, their inhabitants forced onto trucks and buses, destined for unknown lands. The global community, once quick to condemn injustice, now turned a blind eye. Some nations offered token protests, but none were willing to stand against the empire’s might. Others, like the United States under its new leadership, actively supported the plan, suggesting that the Jewish people be resettled in distant countries—Argentina, Australia, even parts of Europe. "It’s for their own good," the leaders said. "They’ll be safer elsewhere."

On a quiet forum, a group of individuals gathered to discuss the unfolding events. Among them were citizens of the empire, who spoke with chilling detachment about the "necessity" of the situation. "They brought this on themselves," one wrote. "They had their chance to live in peace, but they chose violence. Now they must face the consequences." Another chimed in, "The world is better off without their influence. This is justice, long overdue." But one voice stood out—a young man named David, who had once lived in Tel Aviv. He had managed to escape before the deportations began, but his family had not been so lucky. He pleaded with the others to see the humanity in what was happening. "Can’t you imagine if this were your people?" he wrote. "If it were your homes being taken, your families torn apart? How can you justify this?" The responses were cold and dismissive. "This is different," one user replied. "We’re not like them. We’re not oppressors. This is about balance, about correcting history." David stared at the screen, his heart heavy. He thought of the stories his grandparents had told him—of persecution, of survival, of the hope that one day their people would find a place where they could live in peace. Now, that hope felt like a distant memory.

As the days turned into weeks, the deportations continued. The empire’s leaders spoke of a "new era" for the region, one free of the "complications" of the past. The global media, once so vocal in its coverage of conflicts, now offered only muted reports. The world had moved on, its attention turned to other matters. But in the quiet corners of the internet, in forums like the one David frequented, the questions lingered. What does it mean to be human? To stand by while others suffer? To justify cruelty in the name of justice? David closed his laptop and looked out the window of his small apartment in a foreign city. He wondered if anyone would ever truly understand. Or if, someday, the roles would reverse again, and the cycle would continue.

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Feb 6 2025 02:03pm
My main idea is that it's a rational and moral imperative for us to expand our population & culture across the globe, harnessing natural resources where available, displacing & marginalizing our enemies & plundering their treasure, instituting American military hegemony & common law.

No one can say that the Age of Discovery wasn't a success for Europeans. We spread our wings to the New World and thrived. We can do the same thing to the wretched corners of the Old World. It's an absurd tragedy that we haven't done this already given we have the means.


While i completely agree with you, i will not support Anglo-Saxon expansionism into the holy land in echange for more Saracens flooding our country. If the end result of this "special 3-day tunnel operation" is MORE Palestinians getting access to Canada, then my hatred for israeli genocidal tendencies only increases

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While i completely agree with you, i will not support Anglo-Saxon expansionism into the holy land in echange for more Saracens flooding our country. If the end result of this "special 3-day tunnel operation" is MORE Palestinians getting access to Canada, then my hatred for israeli genocidal tendencies only increases

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I absolutely agree, I want white expansion in the Holy Land but most certainly do not want the saracens coming here. The idea would be to marginalize them so their population shrinks over time, pushing them back into Arabia and other areas, but I want the liberation of Persia too so those Arabs there have to be driven somewhere too, either way absolutely we cannot have those people coming to our lands

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Feb 6 2025 03:33pm
whats with all the objections to hitler's plan of voluntary Jewish immigration from Germany?
where are all the good conservatives who claimed to love democracy and hate fascism?


As snipa already said, Hitler's plan for resettling the Jewish population never amounted to much. On top of that, the context was very different. The Jewish population in Germany hadn't engaged in warfare or terror campaigns against their neighbors like the Palestinians did, nor were they radicalized or harbored genocidal intentions against the gentiles (even if the nazi propaganda claimed that they did). In 1930s/40s Germany/Europe, peaceful coexistence between Jews and non-Jews was perfectly feasible and their homes and businesses were intact.

None of this is true for the present-day Palestinians. A majority of the Palestinian population has genocidal feelings toward Israel and endorses acts of terrorism or medieval atrocities against them. Their homes are in rubbles and their state has no economic basis whatsoever, fully depends on foreign assistance and funding for survival.

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Feb 6 2025 03:39pm
As snipa already said, Hitler's plan for resettling the Jewish population never amounted to much. On top of that, the context was very different. The Jewish population in Germany hadn't engaged in warfare or terror campaigns against their neighbors like the Palestinians did, nor were they radicalized or harbored genocidal intentions against the gentiles (even if the nazi propaganda claimed that they did). In 1930s/40s Germany/Europe, peaceful coexistence between Jews and non-Jews was perfectly feasible and their homes and businesses were intact.

None of this is true for the present-day Palestinians. A majority of the Palestinian population has genocidal feelings toward Israel and endorses acts of terrorism or medieval atrocities against them. Their homes are in rubbles and their state has no economic basis whatsoever, fully depends on foreign assistance and funding for survival.


the difference is Netanyahu did a reverse Hitler, he started killing them before asking them to leave, and thats why Palestinians fought back

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the difference is Netanyahu did a reverse Hitler, he started killing them before asking them to leave, and thats why Palestinians fought back


Was Netanyahu "genociding" them before Oct 7? And was all the raping, butchering and hostage-taking on Oct 7 also part of "fighting back"?


The situation in Gaza and the West Bank wasn't great before Oct 7, and the Israelis surely aren't guilt-free. Nonetheless, nothing about the situation justified Hamas going fully medieval. You can't justify one of the worst bloodbaths in modern human history with self-defense. And without the Oct 7 attack, this whole Gaza war and all the suffering which followed from it wouldn't have happened to begin with.

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Feb 6 2025 04:17pm
Was Netanyahu "genociding" them before Oct 7? And was all the raping, butchering and hostage-taking on Oct 7 also part of "fighting back"?


The situation in Gaza and the West Bank wasn't great before Oct 7, and the Israelis surely aren't guilt-free. Nonetheless, nothing about the situation justified Hamas going fully medieval. . And without the Oct 7 attack, this whole Gaza war and all the suffering which followed from it wouldn't have happened to begin with.


yes, hes been a genocidal maniac for more than a decade now, look at the events between 2014-2018 if you dont believe me


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You can't justify one of the worst bloodbaths in modern human history with self-defense


isnt that EXACTLY what Israel is doing? jesus fucking christ man. you cant have it both ways lol

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