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Feb 6 2025 02:35am
What’s with all the objections to trump’s plan of voluntary immigration from Gaza ?
Where are all the liberals in Spain, SA, Ireland ? Now it’s your time to save those poor individuals and offer them better life..
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Feb 6 2025 02:39am
What’s with all the objections to trump’s plan of voluntary immigration from Gaza ?
Where are all the liberals in Spain, SA, Ireland ? Now it’s your time to save those poor individuals and offer them better life..


Don't get your hopes up too far on things. Trump's method of negotiation always starts from stating intent that is entirely harmful to whoever he's negotiating with. They bluster for a bit, then typically cave to terms that favor them more, but are still far better for Trump's goals than what their original intentions had been.

"Hey! We're going to impose tariffs!" "NOU!" "They're live." "Nah bro! We'll work border security with you, holy shit hombre!" The question is, exactly what will he settle for on a compromise deal?
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Don't get your hopes up too far on things. Trump's method of negotiation always starts from stating intent that is entirely harmful to whoever he's negotiating with. They bluster for a bit, then typically cave to terms that favor them more, but are still far better for Trump's goals than what their original intentions had been.

"Hey! We're going to impose tariffs!" "NOU!" "They're live." "Nah bro! We'll work border security with you, holy shit hombre!" The question is, exactly what will he settle for on a compromise deal?


Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m not delusional.. the gazans are going no where.
Still funny to see the Arab world and Europe alike being hypocrites like they always do. He makes them uncomfortable and that’s just too funny to watch

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Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m not delusional.. the gazans are going no where.
Still funny to see the Arab world and Europe alike being hypocrites like they always do. He makes them uncomfortable and that’s just too funny to watch


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Feb 6 2025 08:27am
Owning the Gaza strip sounds like something rather excessive.

Not a big fan of having overseas protectorates. And true colonies typically turn out badly, because eventually there's bound to be corrupt administrators.

Not a big fan.


Remember that America started as an overseas colony

A US Gaza colony could flourish into the future, spread and become a joint US-Israel white state that dominates the region & marginalizes the Muslims. Straight winning basically, it's hard to oppose this. Crusades are back on the menu
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Feb 6 2025 08:48am
Remember that America started as an overseas colony

A US Gaza colony could flourish into the future, spread and become a joint US-Israel white state that dominates the region & marginalizes the Muslims. Straight winning basically, it's hard to oppose this. Crusades are back on the menu


Just for the record, I'm not about any of this.

And the result of the American colonies was the loss of those colonies due to poor administration, the support for Napoleon, the strategic waiting of support in WWII, and the eventual demolishment of the British Empire.

Not sure comparing America as a colony to a potential new American Colony is a good plan.
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Feb 6 2025 09:11am
Just for the record, I'm not about any of this.

And the result of the American colonies was the loss of those colonies due to poor administration, the support for Napoleon, the strategic waiting of support in WWII, and the eventual demolishment of the British Empire.

Not sure comparing America as a colony to a potential new American Colony is a good plan.


My main idea is that it's a rational and moral imperative for us to expand our population & culture across the globe, harnessing natural resources where available, displacing & marginalizing our enemies & plundering their treasure, instituting American military hegemony & common law.

No one can say that the Age of Discovery wasn't a success for Europeans. We spread our wings to the New World and thrived. We can do the same thing to the wretched corners of the Old World. It's an absurd tragedy that we haven't done this already given we have the means.
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My main idea is that it's a rational and moral imperative for us to expand our population & culture across the globe, harnessing natural resources where available, displacing & marginalizing our enemies & plundering their treasure, instituting American military hegemony & common law.

No one can say that the Age of Discovery wasn't a success for Europeans. We spread our wings to the New World and thrived. We can do the same thing to the wretched corners of the Old World. It's an absurd tragedy that we haven't done this already given we have the means.


It's neither rational nor moral for the United States to expand across the globe. We were founded as a trade nation and spilled the blood of hundreds of thousands to secure our ability to live and trade as we choose.

You've got shit twisted, fren.
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Feb 6 2025 11:35am
What’s with all the objections to trump’s plan of voluntary immigration from Gaza ?
Where are all the liberals in Spain, SA, Ireland ? Now it’s your time to save those poor individuals and offer them better life..


whats with all the objections to hitler's plan of voluntary Jewish immigration from Germany?
where are all the good conservatives who claimed to love democracy and hate fascism?
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Feb 6 2025 11:53am
It's neither rational nor moral for the United States to expand across the globe. We were founded as a trade nation and spilled the blood of hundreds of thousands to secure our ability to live and trade as we choose.

You've got shit twisted, fren.


Expansion is only rational - was it irrational for the US to expand westward? By remaining isolated & deliberately not expanding, all that happens is other powers are allowed to expand instead, who can then grow more powerful and eventually conquer you. For example, if the US pulls out of the Japan-Taiwan-Phillipines pipeline, China fills the vacuum

The US is already an Imperial power, just de facto and not de jure.

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