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Feb 3 2025 01:37pm
I think the fact that the US often has a trade deficit with other countries is a sign of our economic strength.

People have this obsession with manufacturing... how many goods the US produces... but we don't exist in the 1950s anymore. The world is different. You know this, you got an advanced degree.

Even if I were to accept the premise that the US trade deficit with various countries is a bad thing, you would need to explain to me how Trump's tariffs will reduce the trade deficit, and how that would be worth it from a broad perspective(economic and otherwise... Canada is an ally).

Reducing the trade deficit via Trump's tariffs could have economic consequences that make it not worth it. That's what I'm hoping for. I want Americans to suffer as a result of Trump being president... otherwise there's no lesson learned.


There may be no better definition of evil than what you just said. "I want [people] to suffer"

I understand completely if you don't like Trump and believe he will fail--believe people will suffer on account of his presidency. If you are rooting for failure and suffering though you should really be ashamed of yourself. You are a truly despicable person if that's how you feel. I'd like to assume it was just hyperbole though.
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Feb 3 2025 01:38pm
These countries manufacture because they see 1. the economic value and 2. they understand the long term benefits both economic and strategic to actually make stuff and not only consume.

You're still stuck in China of 40 years ago mentality. Newsflash, they are the number 1 maker of EV's, they make a shit ton of robotics/drones, they are building nuclear reactors at break neck speed, they already produce 2x electricity we do (which is the new indicator of who is likely to win the AI race as it's incredibly energy intensive) they are heavily investing in high end manufacturing of the future. And all of this is supported and encouraged by their own government, both through direct investment and currency manipulation.

TBH we're destined to lose the economic war with China, they are aligned on progress, while here we have low IQ people that so hate Trump that they'd rather he put zero pressure on high industry to domesticate production because they want to prove he's bad. Mate, all my posts have been on topic, while your Trump centric posts pepper PARD throughout, regardless of topic, he is your center of gravity on quite literally everything.


Yes, we know you have an obsession with your daddy Trump, let me acknowledge that right now so we can move past it.

Some of the issues you talk about regarding America are correct. We need to build nuclear, and we need to cut away regulation that is holding us back unnecessarily. I think we're aligned on our objectives. But then Trump does something that either doesn't benefit those objectives, or harms them, and you pretend he's made some masterful move. And that's where we stand now.
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Feb 3 2025 01:40pm
There may be no better definition of evil than what you just said. "I want [people] to suffer"

I understand completely if you don't like Trump and believe he will fail--believe people will suffer on account of his presidency. If you are rooting for failure and suffering though you should really be ashamed of yourself. You are a truly despicable person if that's how you feel. I'd like to assume it was just hyperbole though.


That's what I believe. You going to cry about it?
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Feb 3 2025 01:45pm
That's what I believe. You going to cry about it?


I told you what I'm going to do. Consider you despicable.

Do you think it's reasonable to expect anyone to take you seriously in a political debate after you admit that when an election doesn't go your way you are actively hoping for disaster?

You apparently want to be identified as an ill-willed partisan. That doesn't affect me at all, it's a sad state of existence for you though.
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Feb 3 2025 01:45pm
Update on tariffs from Trump:

Trump came to an agreement with Mexico’s president to sends 10,000 Mexican troops to US side to stop drugs and illegal immigrants from coming into US. Then the 25% tariffs are put on hold for 30 days.

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I told you what I'm going to do. Consider you despicable.

Do you think it's reasonable to expect anyone to take you seriously in a political debate after you admit that when an election doesn't go your way you are actively hoping for disaster?

You apparently want to be identified as an ill-willed partisan. That doesn't affect me at all, it's a sad state of existence for you though.


I'm not hoping for disaster. I just want the voters to suffer because they elected Trump. We don't need disaster for that to happen.

Also I have no idea who you are, so I don't care at all what you think.

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I'm not hoping for disaster. I just want the voters to suffer because they elected Trump. We don't need disaster for that to happen.


See, I consider widespread suffering to be a disaster. And hoping for it is, again, evil.
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Feb 3 2025 01:50pm
See, I consider widespread suffering to be a disaster. And hoping for it is, again, evil.


Well I think widespread suffering is the norm of the human condition so I'm not sure where we go from here bruh.
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Feb 3 2025 01:53pm
Well I think widespread suffering is the norm of the human condition so I'm not sure where we go from here bruh.


Are you now saying that it was hyperbole and you do not wish for any additional widespread suffering?

That would be a good thing to say.
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Feb 3 2025 02:00pm
Are you now saying that it was hyperbole and you do not wish for any additional widespread suffering?

That would be a good thing to say.


Nope... I'm just putting my statement in context. I want Americans to suffer because Trump got elected. He's going to deliver on my desire.
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