Quote (uskittles @ Feb 2 2025 04:09pm)

The tariffs are relevant here because this tactic has happened in American politics before. American private wealth and monopolies specifically destroyed the economy for the average American. We tried to use tariffs. It failed. We went into the great depression.

Quote (Mondain @ Feb 2 2025 11:08am)

Do you want to argue about the wealthy, or stay on topic with tariffs?
Go make a i'm poor thread if that's all you want to debate.

No matter what you say, they call the shots because they used the gift of intellect.
USA is doing tariffs in 2025, we saw this in 2017 also.

Do you have any correlating thoughts on the 2017 tariffs trump implemented, which biden kept?

Quote (uskittles @ Feb 2 2025 10:43am)

You're underestimating possibility of the decline of consumerism in America as a result of these policies. Our job wages aren't going up. Our government is falling apart. Eventually people will not be able to afford luxury items.

Trump's plans will do nothing but cause immediate instability and price hikes. The corporate demons will just try to maximize their profits while playing the market. The market will crash. The rich will get richer by selling out then buying back in.

We are sincerely f*cked unless you are the 1%.

Quote (Mondain @ Feb 2 2025 11:11am)

let's go back to 2017 and have some history drizzled in for good measure.
Video from Jan 28, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHib0Jm-f1w

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 2 2025 04:12pm)

Status quo has not benefitted the average American. Drive around the rust belt and you will see the ramifications of stuff being made in Asia, Mexico or Canada. You don't actually understand the mechanics of what's happened over the last 50 years. This hurts global corporations that want to make shit in cheaper in other places while selling it here. It's likely to hurt stocks and big business, that's why Bloomberg, WSJ, The Economist and all the other corporate mouth pieces are screeching about this.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 2 2025 11:12am)

Status quo has not benefitted the average American. Drive around the rust belt and you will see the ramifications of stuff being made in Asia, Mexico or Canada. You don't actually understand the mechanics of what's happened over the last 50 years. This hurts global corporations that want to make shit in cheaper in other places while selling it here. It's likely to hurt stocks and big business, that's why Bloomberg, WSJ, The Economist and all the other corporate mouth pieces are screeching about this.

Quote (uskittles @ Feb 2 2025 04:16pm)

American products need higher standards. American jobs need higher standards.

Quote (uskittles @ Feb 2 2025 08:16am)

Oh I do agree that we need to re-invest in our industries. Absolutely. But tariffs are a cheap way to compete. Although there is definitely some truth to the fact that the conditions of Mexico specifically when it comes to auto part manufacturing they have an edge and it's the fault of our policies and trade.

American products need higher standards. American jobs need higher standards. We cannot bully our way back into the market.

Quote (Mondain @ Feb 2 2025 11:17am)

What is "higher standards" please explain in further detail.

Quote (El1te @ Feb 2 2025 11:19am)

They already have higher standards. Which makes them uncompetitive with a globalized market that utilizes slave labour and is lawless.