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When/why is shadow better/used over diamond?
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When/why is shadow better/used over diamond?


Diamond is only better when you don't need over dex for max block.

Ward faith works too with lower dex.

Shadow is most likely the choice.
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In general pretty nice guide, just some minor feedback would be focusing more on frw “bps”

For example 140 bow and 170 isn’t really a sweet-spot

Effect on Run/Walk Speed in yards/s
FRW Speed FRW Speed FRW Speed
0 % +0.00 100 % +3.60 200 % +5.10
5 % +0.24 105 % +3.66 205 % +5.16
10 % +0.54 110 % +3.78 210 % +5.22
15 % +0.78 115 % +3.90 215 % +5.28
20 % +1.02 120 % +3.96 220 % +5.34
25 % +1.36 125 % +4.08 225 % +5.40
30 % +1.50 130 % +4.14 230 % +5.40
35 % +1.68 135 % +4.26 235 % +5.46
40 % +1.86 140 % +4.32 240 % +5.52
45 % +2.04 145 % +4.38 245 % +5.58
50 % +2.22 150 % +4.50 250 % +5.58
55 % +2.40 155 % +4.56 255 % +5.64
60 % +2.52 160 % +4.62 260 % +5.70
65 % +2.70 165 % +4.68 265 % +5.70
70 % +2.82 170 % +4.74 270 % +5.76
75 % +3.00 175 % +4.80 275 % +5.82
80 % +3.12 180 % +4.86 280 % +5.82
85 % +3.24 185 % +4.92 285 % +5.88
90 % +3.36 190 % +4.98 290 % +5.88
95 % +3.48 195 % +5.04 295 % +5.94

Some sweet spots are 135 / 165

The 150 / 180 also isn’t bad you had for other matchups

It’s hard to find a spot where there’s a .12 jump on both swaps at the same time, without losing a lot of frw. But I wouldn’t aim for bps with .06 jumps on both sides
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Jan 31 2025 09:25am
In general pretty nice guide, just some minor feedback would be focusing more on frw “bps”

For example 140 bow and 170 isn’t really a sweet-spot

Effect on Run/Walk Speed in yards/s
FRW Speed FRW Speed FRW Speed
0 % +0.00 100 % +3.60 200 % +5.10
5 % +0.24 105 % +3.66 205 % +5.16
10 % +0.54 110 % +3.78 210 % +5.22
15 % +0.78 115 % +3.90 215 % +5.28
20 % +1.02 120 % +3.96 220 % +5.34
25 % +1.36 125 % +4.08 225 % +5.40
30 % +1.50 130 % +4.14 230 % +5.40
35 % +1.68 135 % +4.26 235 % +5.46
40 % +1.86 140 % +4.32 240 % +5.52
45 % +2.04 145 % +4.38 245 % +5.58
50 % +2.22 150 % +4.50 250 % +5.58
55 % +2.40 155 % +4.56 255 % +5.64
60 % +2.52 160 % +4.62 260 % +5.70
65 % +2.70 165 % +4.68 265 % +5.70
70 % +2.82 170 % +4.74 270 % +5.76
75 % +3.00 175 % +4.80 275 % +5.82
80 % +3.12 180 % +4.86 280 % +5.82
85 % +3.24 185 % +4.92 285 % +5.88
90 % +3.36 190 % +4.98 290 % +5.88
95 % +3.48 195 % +5.04 295 % +5.94

Some sweet spots are 135 / 165

The 150 / 180 also isn’t bad you had for other matchups

It’s hard to find a spot where there’s a .12 jump on both swaps at the same time, without losing a lot of frw. But I wouldn’t aim for bps with .06 jumps on both sides


Just a reference that's all. All of my zon buddies like different frw for different mu.

All works.
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Just a reference that's all. All of my zon buddies like different frw for different mu.

All works.


I mean sure all works but it’s double the value from frw for certain breakpoints

Sometimes you get .06 yards from 5 frw and sometimes you get .12

It’s worth focusing on those bigger jumps.
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Jan 31 2025 09:32am
I mean sure all works but it’s double the value from frw for certain breakpoints

Sometimes you get .06 yards from 5 frw and sometimes you get .12

It’s worth focusing on those bigger jumps.


Yeah i know. Others can amazon basin frw and see for themselves.

This is basic guide for beginners basically. No need to really get into frw Breakpoints which is such a little detail in actual gameplay for beginners.

But I like the fact that you bring it up. 👍
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Jan 31 2025 09:33am
Yeah i know. Others can amazon basin frw and see for themselves.

This is basic guide for beginners basically. No need to really get into frw Breakpoints which is such a little detail in actual gameplay for beginners.

But I like the fact that you bring it up. 👍


Yea you’re right, all in all solid guide, gj :)
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Jan 31 2025 09:35am
Yea you’re right, all in all solid guide, gj :)


Thanks man. Yeah this was just the summary of what I have learned from good guys and wanted to share with others. I was a noob too and was helped by many good dudes to get better to enjoy zon pvp.

Love pvp. It's the best. Cheers
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