i believe you miss interpreted my comment. I did not mean stacking dead strike like elemental resistances and have either conviction or lower res drop it, in d2 there is no method to remove deadly strike % chance and anything above the cap is pointless. I was talking talking about the boots gore riders indirectly because it has deadly strike / open wounds / crushing blow. It should be obvious and inferred that d2 has a max effective cap of deadly strike and going over is pointless. the point was to focus on deadly strike and if you have any amount of open wounds or crushing blow that too provides additional damage but its not as useful as deadly strike in pvp.

also read my last comment:

this is an easier answer:
pvp = deadly strike > crushing blow

like others have said it does add damage but is effected by dr so it does not add significant damage in pvp. instead when i build my melee physical damage pvp chars i focus on deadly strike. still its a damage source even if its nerfed in pvp by the pkers dr from gear the way to win is to have as many stacked additional damage sources and modifiers as possible like any % open wounds and any % crushing blow then tons and tons of deadly strike.

it never said anything about stacking crushing blow but having deadly strike + open wounds + crushing blow

This post was edited by WiseWolf on Jan 27 2025 04:30pm

this is what catch my eye ... -> "then tons and tons of deadly strike."

This post was edited by SirWhale on Jan 27 2025 04:30pm

all you need is the cap

it depends, if your character have critical strike to catch cap you still need 100% deadly strike which is blah if you have 60-70% critical you focus on other sources of dmg than deadly ...

you are just nitpicking at this point and you are talking about builds like bowzons that have deadly strike and critical strike. if you do have any sources of critical strike then yes you can offset the amount of deadly strike you need because if you fail to get critical strike on the attack calculation it will drop into deadly strike (or which ever one is calculated first drops into the second)

This post was edited by WiseWolf on Jan 27 2025 04:40pm

The only time you can make an argument for Ber over things like 40/15 max or Um or Lo is vs a barb with high life, particularly a bvc.

The average damage Ber does compared to Lo um or 40/15max makes it not worth it

actually from physical/magic(berserk) dmg characters barbarian , amazon and assassin have critical strike which is more than half
paladin and druid doesn't have

current melee assassin builds doesn't need it (except WW-sin) because deadly strike does not work with Dragon Talon, Dragon Tail, Dragon Flight ...

Ty guys I just needed to know whether it helps or doesn’t help with dmg, and it seems like it definitely does add dmg

Appreciates you guys

you are over thinking it - again... the bowzon was just an example of the dual use of critical strike and deadly strike, the order of how its calculated (critical strike then deadly strike ok ok) then balancing gear to best use both ds + cs, yes i am totally aware of diablo 2 caps and there is no point in having 400000000% deadly strike the game is capped at 100% we got it.

i am aware barbs have critical strike its from weapons mastery.
i am aware sins have critical strike its from claw mastery.
i am aware zons have critical strike its from lol critical strike skill.