Not going to college means higher intelligence, and it has meant that for decades

you're absolutely insane along with other TDS people

you've completely lost the plot. completely. either you people will shape up, or you'll be left behind. At worst, if you guys keep pushing this insanity, we will get more and more fed up until direct action measures are taken to segregate them from civil society.

What is your measure for intelligence to make a claim like that?

Financial well-being

There's a student loan crisis as you know, with thousands upon thousands of people who went to college, yet did not get educated and thus have no skills or earning potential and took out loans just to set the cash on fire.

In contrast, the people who went into the trades or a non-college route (vocational school or other) are doing just fine financially.

going to university in the present is categorically stupid

This post was edited by El1te on Jan 27 2025 02:33pm

Financial well-being is your one and only measure for intelligence? So Donald Trump at birth was smarter than you will ever be, Elon Musk is by far the smartest man in the world and the people who shaped our understanding of the world like Newton, Einstein, Bernoulli, Curie and the likes are literal idiots compared to a randomly selected oil sheik?

It's the only purely objective metric by which to judge intelligence, that and level of fitness.

All the old pioneers of science were wealthy. It was a requirement to practice science unless you were funded by a wealthy patron.

My point is: going to university to get a worthless degree, is stupid. It's stupid, full-stop. It's strong evidence of low intelligence.

This post was edited by El1te on Jan 27 2025 02:40pm

So the logical conclusion is that rich athletes are the most intelligent people on the planet (until they stop being fit due to injury or age, when they instantly become very stupid apparently). Gotcha.

For everyone interested in some somewhat accepted measures of intelligence, they are all (obviously) positively correlated with education. That does not mean you are an idiot if you don't want to get a degree, but it does mean statistically chances are lower you are (still) an idiot after acquiring one.

Bruh

It's no surprise that college graduates mostly voted Harris they got the better jobs (middle-upper class) and are doing ok. Secondly take a look at your average college campus they're breeding grounds of everything liberal all the way to the far left of the spectrum including identity politics --> OF COURSE they vote Harris no surprises here


That ordinary Americans working two jobs voted Trump is completely understandable given the circumstances and you know what's funny --> (D) party used to pride themselves to be the party of the working class and they're heavily criticized for abandoning the working class which caused many to vote for Trump instead.

This is all recent news you should check it out before continuing your rant


Ask Google about it, I picked some random sources, quotes from articles linked, pick your favorite, lol

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bernie-sanders-democrats-working-class/




https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/04/us/politics/democrats-working-class.html




https://www.npr.org/2025/01/01/nx-s1-5231970/democrats-face-criticism-that-their-party-lost-touch-with-working-class-voters




https://www.politico.eu/article/democrats-us-election-2024-keep-forgetting-working-class-left-wing-parties/



This post was edited by Djunior on Jan 27 2025 02:56pm

Idk what to tell you man, the choice was not between Bernie and Kamala. The democratic party is flawed, your two party system is idiotic but none of that makes Trump any better. He does not care one inch for the little man, all he cares for is himself. And you can blame the democrats for not finding an attractive candidate twice, in the end the voters still are responsisble for who they vote for.

One last edit since it's also important: Rich people tend to vote for Trump, since they profit more from his tax cuts. So you have one group of unedacuted workers who are duped into voting against their interests and another group that profit off of them to paint the complete picture.

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Jan 27 2025 03:04pm

Where did I say it was between Bernie and Kamala, obviously I linked those sources to point out that the Democrats abandoned the working class but of course you understood that and that I completely crushed your flawed logic because you didn't even follow the news.

If this is the level of debate you bring to the table then I'm done here, lol

You're no better than the other TDS sufferers that frequent this sub

The very clear implication of my post was that Trump is also not for the working class, he just lies to them - Bernie would have been different, but he wasn't an option. Since this went straight over your head, you are at least correct that the level of debate makes no sense.