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Trump is probably too old to serve a 3rd term and would do better as a Vizier-style kingmaker Grand Advisor role in 2029, but the fraudulent 2020 election is unprecedented
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The difference is statistically half your term is spent fighting things the previous president put into action. So if you are going to use an analogy like this at least say it’s not your biological kid but the one your wife had with her brother or something and the car is her lover’s.

This goes for no matter who the candidate is you spend half your time adjusting previous things done. That’s why I’d honestly rather just make it one term and guaranteed 8. Red, Blue or purple.


90% of what Biden did was through executive action and was undone hours after Trump took office. the remaining 10% was executive branch departments policy and will be undone fairly quickly. Trump is going to resume his path in 2025 without a lot of lag even being out of office for 4 years.

i dont even know what the bolded has to do with the analogy, you're just being nasty because you have very little else.
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90% of what Biden did was through executive action and was undone hours after Trump took office. the remaining 10% was executive branch departments policy and will be undone fairly quickly. Trump is going to resume his path in 2025 without a lot of lag even being out of office for 4 years.

i dont even know what the bolded has to do with the analogy, you're just being nasty because you have very little else.


That’s true. So after THESE 4 years if he doesn’t improve anything it’s all on him. He still has to “fix” in his mind things he believes Biden did wrong. Let’s face it the first year of Biden’s presidency wasn’t that bad price wise it took time to slope.

Trump has a chance to do one of two things at the end of 4 years.

1. Prove the government in place was the problem.

2. Prove that he is just as incompetent as the previous leadership.

Here’s hoping the middle class doesn’t supper under him since they are the reason he even got in this time.
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That’s true. So after THESE 4 years if he doesn’t improve anything it’s all on him. He still has to “fix” in his mind things he believes Biden did wrong. Let’s face it the first year of Biden’s presidency wasn’t that bad price wise it took time to slope.

Trump has a chance to do one of two things at the end of 4 years.

1. Prove the government in place was the problem.

2. Prove that he is just as incompetent as the previous leadership.

Here’s hoping the middle class doesn’t supper under him since they are the reason he even got in this time.


as a member of the middle class id like supper, preferably every night.
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as a member of the middle class id like supper, preferably every night.


I agree. My grocery bill has tripled the last few years and honestly we are having to eat a lot more garbage and less healthy.
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I agree. My grocery bill has tripled the last few years and honestly we are having to eat a lot more garbage and less healthy.


most families are the same sadly, last year i did ok on preserving my garden's harvest but now im at that time of year many things are running out and the grocery bills have ticked back up. the cow we bought is dwindling too.

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90% of what Biden did was through executive action and was undone hours after Trump took office. the remaining 10% was executive branch departments policy and will be undone fairly quickly. Trump is going to resume his path in 2025 without a lot of lag even being out of office for 4 years.

i dont even know what the bolded has to do with the analogy, you're just being nasty because you have very little else.


Huh?

Biden, in terms of legislation passed, was a pretty successful president. American Rescue Plan, IRA, infrastructure, firearm safety, CHIPS Act, etc. He has a serious legacy in those terms.
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Huh?

Biden, in terms of legislation passed, was a pretty successful president. American Rescue Plan, IRA, infrastructure, firearm safety, CHIPS Act, etc. He has a serious legacy in those terms.


he wasn't an awful president in terms of legislation, but in the context of what trump thinks he needs to "fix" not much of that factors in. Trump campaigned predominately on trade imbalances, foreign war involvement, and border security. I think on that list the CHIPS act is bidens best long term legacy builder, and likely something Trump likes too.

he can impose tariffs unilaterally and Biden kept many of his Chinese tariffs. Foreign war involvement is his biggest hurdle but not much of "undo" there by Biden other than optics and messaging, which he's already largely accomplished to his liking through the campaign phase. Hamas, Israel, Ukraine and Russia all pretty much know what they're getting, soft hands in terms of US troop involvement and a call for mediation by the whitehouse in both disputes. And border security is mostly handled through executive branch policy he can easily just revert to the 2016-2020 playbook overnight, the wall will take time but most of the issues can be postponed by reinstituting the remain in mexico program and directing ICE to detain prisoners once released as well as locate expired visa holders.

long term economic goals will take 4+ years to gain traction, large ships take a long time to turn. but a shocking amount of what any president gets done in their term takes place in week 1 where they undo previous EOs and sign new ones. i hate EO presidency, but it's where we are politically. Senate and Congress are largely overpaid underworked bozos, much to my chagrin.

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he wasn't an awful president in terms of legislation, but in the context of what trump thinks he needs to "fix" not much of that factors in. Trump campaigned predominately on trade imbalances, foreign war involvement, and border security. I think on that list the CHIPS act is bidens best long term legacy builder, and likely something Trump likes too.

he can impose tariffs unilaterally and Biden kept many of his Chinese tariffs. Foreign war involvement is his biggest hurdle but not much of "undo" there by Biden other than optics and messaging, which he's already largely accomplished to his liking through the campaign phase. Hamas, Israel, Ukraine and Russia all pretty much know what they're getting, soft hand in terms of US troop involvement and a call for mediation by the whitehouse in both disputes. And border security is mostly handled through executive branch policy he can mostly just revert to the 2016-2020 playbook overnight, the wall will take time but most of the issues can be postponed by reinstituting the remain in mexico program and directing ICE to detain prisoners once released as well as locate expired visa holders.

long term economic goals will take 4+ years to gain traction, large ships take a long time to turn. but a shocking amount of what any president gets done in their term takes place in week 1 where they undo previous EOs and sign new ones. i hate EO presidency, but it's where we are politically. Senate and Congress are largely overpaid underworked bozos, much to my chagrin.


I don't think executive orders have as much of a lasting impact as meaningful legislation... so Biden's impact as president will be his Supreme Court pick, his legislation, and his foreign policy. Trump is a truly unique figure so his lasting impact is much broader.
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I don't think executive orders have as much of a lasting impact as meaningful legislation... so Biden's impact as president will be his Supreme Court pick, his legislation, and his foreign policy. Trump is a truly unique figure so his lasting impact is much broader.


i'd agree entirely. i hate the pendulum swing EOs cause, as do most govt workers id guess.

slipping from 600-700ish bills passed in the 1970s-80s to 200-300 bills in the 2000s-2020s has been a sad ride. and the scope and impact of bills is far less reaching. watching a branch slip from importance has been sad. all while the SCOTUS gains too much importance, even for a legal minded person like myself.

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