You were Pro-Trump after it became Kamala? So what you're saying is, you supported Clinton, Biden, and Biden. Kamala was one step too far?

I would be happy to view your analysis regarding bitcoin and the like from BEFORE the FTX scandal. I would be happy to view your analysis on how the Silicon Valley BANKS managed to swindle their customers out of billions, and what regulatory failures led to it.

Go ahead. Pull it up. You sound like all the idiots in mainstream media who're now solidly in favor of Trump, when 5 minutes ago it was constant handwringing over what a criminal and such they thought he was. Re-write the past to make yourself look better? Nah, show your posts from the past to prove me wrong. I'll be happy to look at them.

At least when Biden won (whether legitimately or through fraud I'll leave to you) I never hesitated to acknowledge that for better or worse, he was what we got. And I never tried to project my thoughts or feelings or knowledge onto him when it came to his policy platform. Because it's HIS platform, not mine. I naturally disagreed with all of it. I'd point out where it was fucked up, and other than that, it's going to be what it'll be.

You're attempting to PROJECT your hatred of collectibles and gambling onto Trump's Platform. Those are not and have never been part of his Platform, do you understand? If that's the kind of legislation you WANT? Write your local Representative and Senator.



Everyone has a right to be an asshole in the US. That's freedom of speech, friend. I understand that you live in a Dictatorship that built internment camps over covid, but we're talking US politics here, not "China's Bitch" politics. Run along now.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jan 21 2025 02:37pm

You're on your vodka fueled drunken rages again. Go look at the investment and finance fourm yourself. My stance has not changed once through the years, im not going to hold your hand.

If anything it's probably solidifyed via my current position having millions of dollars and never fomoing into any coins because I've been happy to maintain my position on these assets with zero intrinsic value. Has that resulted in likely a lessor annual cgar because I won't even touch bitcoin. Yeah likely but I'm fine with that.

I don't think you have it in you to look at something without 15 whataboutisms.

Your stance is it's cool its just like pogs or playing cards so what if he makes billions.

Mine is I'm disappointed he's clearly leveraging the precieved power to be to inflate a financial instrument with no intrinsic value that very well likely would have been worth nothing should he have lost the election and that its essentially further promoting this thing silicon valley grifters have been using for several years now that further promotes gambling.

Looks like we're not gonna see eye to eye. No whataboutisms, those are the two stances.

This post was edited by SBD on Jan 21 2025 02:58pm

Perfectly sober. Too much to keep track of with the new Administration to cloud my brain with whiskey. Also, I haven't touched vodka in close to a year. You should update your memo book.

You know your arguments are pretty shit when your primary fallback is "well you must be drunk!" right?

If the topics/posts are there, prior to the required timeframe, you should be able to find them. If you cannot locate your own posts, why should I bother? You've been anti-Trump from the start, and I don't expect it to change.

My primary purpose in pointing out your bullshit nonsensical posts regarding memecoins is that they're legal, thousands of them are around, ANY American can make them, and it's FAME that propels them to success or failure. Donald Trump has arguably been the most famous man on the planet since the late 1980's. That you assume his memecoins would fail without holding office is just you projecting your hatred of the man onto others who don't give a shit what you think.

As to memecoins and collectibles of literally every kind? I don't value any of it. Nor will I overpay. A simple painting to put on my wall? I judge based on how much I like the painting. Then I look at the price. If I see a $250 frame and a relatively simple painting, and they want to charge $5000 for it? I'll go download the image off the internet, get the frame by itself, use my handy dandy plotter, and frame a worthless piece so my livingroom looks better. I don't buy into ANY of the meme coins, art scams (Hey hunter Biden!), collecting cards, or any of that. Nor, for that matter, do I really gamble at all, these days, in any way. Sure, some stock investments could be gambles by definition, but they exist as benefits from working for places. And they were time investments, not money. They're nothing but profit.

If your goal is to point out that memecoins shouldn't exist, and gambling shouldn't exist, fine. It's a shit point, you're just trying to dictate what people can and cannot do. But you do you. But do NOT be sat there trying to compare a perfectly legal activity by an American citizen, EVEN IF he is now President, with fraudulent activities until there IS fraudulent activity in fact.

Actually I'll sit her and offer my criticism all I want Bob. Feel free to browse elsewhere if you wish. I can also call it what I want and it's a grift.

Again:

Your stance is it's cool its just like pogs or playing cards so what if he makes billions.

Mine is I'm disappointed he's clearly leveraging the precieved power to be to inflate a financial instrument with no intrinsic value that very well likely would have been worth nothing should he have lost the election and that its essentially further promoting this thing silicon valley grifters have been using for several years now that further promotes gambling.

Looks like we are not going to see eye to eye.

In the end I'll live with him making his money and you can continue to gage on billionaire cock who's first thought is to use power for personal financial gain.

This post was edited by SBD on Jan 21 2025 03:12pm

One pretty sinister thing i would like to add is people who understand crypto like myself sold very early.
Who is going to hold onto that coin and make huge losses when it is dumped?
True believers, maga fans, trumps most loyal followers.

the good news is no one is making you buy into it like lockedup shampoo in a Newyork 711.

if its all owned by goldman sachs shadow inc then trump is far less volatile. youre seeing what you want to see.

It's always the uneducated who get burned in the end. It's amazing what believers will do without a thought in the world. You see it all the time in rural America where a larger company will come in make every promise and people will vote at a municipal level, company comes in exploits and then people are surprised when none of the benifits came back to them like they were promised. It's so easy to grift.

I deal with big mining companies after land tenure on a regular basis.

This post was edited by SBD on Jan 21 2025 03:19pm

I live in a mining country, we see it all the time, adani does it consistently and every time he bribes local politicians to talk up the benefits, citizens defend him to the moon and back and the mine is fully automated pit to port and gives next to no jobs.

What a load of horse shit. Pogs had no intrinsic value beyond the penny required to make them. Same with trading cards. The US Dollar has no intrinsic value beyond the promise from the government to honor the currency.

Memecoins have no intrinsic value... Other than that given to them by the people who buy them, and are willing to trade goods and services for them. As such, new memecoins are created on a daily basis. Most fail. Those that succeed are either propped up by the Media (FTX Anyone?) or propped up based on the FAME of the person who stands behind them.

As long as Trump is not using the levers of government power to to directly impact the trading values of memecoins, his own or any others, there's no "perceived power" at work here. And I'd note, having watched some of those who are talking about their trading of his currency... His haters are trading for these memecoins as much IF NOT MORE than his supporters. And they're making millions. Don't you like it when Presidents turn every day Americans, especially those who actively opposed them, into overnight millionaires?

Again, your issue is that you hate tradeables and gambling. The Trump aspect is just you being anti-Trump. Your stance is clear and obvious. And nonsensical. You poopoo'd the Biden family influence peddaling scams from day one. Yet now you want to hold Trump to a standard you don't believe in? You're a joke, and the level of cope is insane. So insane I may have to rename to SaneBobb just because it's suddenly become clear that I'm not very far out there at all.

I hold anyone to the same standard. That's our difference.