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Jan 18 2025 02:57am
Lmao I don't think anyone is going to take this bet regardless, got be out your damn mind to bet Texans ML against kc at home in the playoffs.
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Jan 18 2025 06:55pm
My dude, you are exactly the person I refer to earlier in this thread about misreading comments.

You literally quoted me quoting all of the books which are mostly in the -515 range, and you're arguing that I said we don't split the difference, when I clearly state we wouldn't split it to -400.


I even did the math on it. Some of ya'll need to stop drinking and posting.

Edit: Also the book he was using was posted after I made the first book quote lmao.


Rofl and even after he showed which book he used, u still doubled down on ur little tantrum. You pnr multis are so weird. It’s ok to admit you’re wrong for once in ur life, don’t be so insecure
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Jan 18 2025 07:00pm
It’s all good fellas!

DK seemed to be way different than other books.
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Jan 18 2025 07:39pm
Rofl and even after he showed which book he used, u still doubled down on ur little tantrum. You pnr multis are so weird. It’s ok to admit you’re wrong for once in ur life, don’t be so insecure




1. I am not a multi, have someone from the admin of this site run an IP trace and then get back to me on it with the findings.

2. The point was that the advertised odds were *SIGNIFICANTLY* greater than those available, on average across all sports books.

3. "splitting the difference" on moneyline wagers *ONLY* helps the person laying the favorite, and *HURTS* the person taking the underdog.

4. Choosing the most favorable book *FOR* the moneyline bettor, then "splitting the difference" results in significant value awarded to the person laying the favorite.


I cannot be more clear than that. If you're mad about any of those points I made, you probably need assistance with velcro shoes.
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Jan 18 2025 07:42pm
1. I am not a multi, have someone from the admin of this site run an IP trace and then get back to me on it with the findings.

2. The point was that the advertised odds were *SIGNIFICANTLY* greater than those available, on average across all sports books.

3. "splitting the difference" on moneyline wagers *ONLY* helps the person laying the favorite, and *HURTS* the person taking the underdog.

4. Choosing the most favorable book *FOR* the moneyline bettor, then "splitting the difference" results in significant value awarded to the person laying the favorite.


I cannot be more clear than that. If you're mad about any of those points I made, you probably need assistance with velcro shoes.


The games over…you can move on
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Jan 18 2025 07:45pm
The games over…you can move on


I replied to someone who quoted me to continue arguing.

Thanks for policing the forum Hawaii 5-0, how's Cancun?
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Jan 18 2025 08:15pm
1. I am not a multi, have someone from the admin of this site run an IP trace and then get back to me on it with the findings.

2. The point was that the advertised odds were *SIGNIFICANTLY* greater than those available, on average across all sports books.

3. "splitting the difference" on moneyline wagers *ONLY* helps the person laying the favorite, and *HURTS* the person taking the underdog.

4. Choosing the most favorable book *FOR* the moneyline bettor, then "splitting the difference" results in significant value awarded to the person laying the favorite.



I cannot be more clear than that. If you're mad about any of those points I made, you probably need assistance with velcro shoes.


I agree with #4, choosing the most beneficial book giving the best odds for the favorite then splitting isn't great. But if you took the consensus of let's say +410/-550 would give +480 to the Texans bettor no? Yes the odds are also better for the favorite bettor not having to wager as much, but if I wanted to bet Texans and could get +480 instead of +410 through lake, why wouldn't you? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding a part of your comment?

This post was edited by RunNaked on Jan 18 2025 08:16pm
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Jan 18 2025 08:16pm
And truly.....I only use DK so it just happened to make me look sleezy. I don't look at offshore books because I don't have a purpose to living in KS lol
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Jan 18 2025 08:38pm
I agree with #4, choosing the most beneficial book giving the best odds for the favorite then splitting isn't great. But if you took the consensus of let's say +410/-550 would give +480 to the Texans bettor no? Yes the odds are also better for the favorite bettor not having to wager as much, but if I wanted to bet Texans and could get +480 instead of +410 through lake, why wouldn't you? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding a part of your comment?


You should also be agreeing with #3, which is why I posted the EV in the thread in the beginning.

Consensus wasn't +410/-550 though, came out to something closer to +395/-510, which would have averaged to -453ish.


To your question though, regarding booking your hypothetical of +480 vs Lake's +410, you absolutely would, but that's the point of shopping a book and why I posted all other competitor's values.
You wouldn't pay 10k more for the same car at a different dealership, books are the same way.


Where Lake has to use higher vigorish sites like Bovada because his book here would be severely unbalanced and *needs* the vig to run it profitably, we don't have to if we're splitting wagers.
The issue is when that wager is a moneyline, however, and as I mentioned in point #3, doing so will only favor one person (the one laying the favorite). Whereas splitting a spread makes the absolute most sense since both parties gain value rather than lose it.



And truly.....I only use DK so it just happened to make me look sleezy. I don't look at offshore books because I don't have a purpose to living in KS lol


You're all good brother, I mainly quote on Caesars or MGM since they are the most honorable and reliable, and also because here in KC we can just hop across the state line to Harrahs to spend our Caesars credits from Kansas sportsbetting :hug:
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Jan 18 2025 09:07pm
You should also be agreeing with #3, which is why I posted the EV in the thread in the beginning.

Consensus wasn't +410/-550 though, came out to something closer to +395/-510, which would have averaged to -453ish.


To your question though, regarding booking your hypothetical of +480 vs Lake's +410, you absolutely would, but that's the point of shopping a book and why I posted all other competitor's values.
You wouldn't pay 10k more for the same car at a different dealership, books are the same way.


Where Lake has to use higher vigorish sites like Bovada because his book here would be severely unbalanced and *needs* the vig to run it profitably, we don't have to if we're splitting wagers.
The issue is when that wager is a moneyline, however, and as I mentioned in point #3, doing so will only favor one person (the one laying the favorite). Whereas splitting a spread makes the absolute most sense since both parties gain value rather than lose it.





You're all good brother, I mainly quote on Caesars or MGM since they are the most honorable and reliable, and also because here in KC we can just hop across the state line to Harrahs to spend our Caesars credits from Kansas sportsbetting :hug:




This is what I was basing it off of, but can you explain how if I was a bettor betting with lake at +410 (using bovada ofc) so that's the standard that anyone will be comparing lines from for the most part considering it's always available and from any side. So you really aren't able to "shop a book", I mean you can if you want to but any sane person would basically refer back to bovada to compare the lines with what's readily available.

So if someone were to take +480 on the Texans (after splitting the difference between consensus value not bovada lines) in what way has this hurt the bettor betting on the dog? Considering their alternative is to bet with lake with +410. Obviously the bettor betting on the favorite is getting increased odds as well via less risk, but I'm just not understanding how that's hurting the underdog bettor.

Also explain what you mean by splitting spread if you wouldn't mind?

Edit: for whatever reason img isn't loading

Edit 2: damn even screenshots on android lookin like ass wtf

This post was edited by RunNaked on Jan 18 2025 09:08pm
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