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Jan 16 2025 11:17am
lol


FREE PALESTINE!


damnit missed your post pre-edit.

At the moment the general consensus is that Israel is going to bomb the living crap out of gaza between now and the cease fire. you know, because its a cease fire. Seems contradictory I know! Lets see if the Israeli government to wiggle its way out of this cease fire, you know, like they did the last time.

As of January 16, 2025, reports indicate that Israeli airstrikes in Gaza have resulted in significant casualties. Since the announcement of a ceasefire agreement, at least 73 Palestinians have been killed, including 20 children and 25 women, with an additional 230 people wounded.

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Jan 16 2025 11:26am
cant we nuke both their countries and start from scratch? these animals will never stop warring on each other
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Jan 16 2025 11:34am
cant we nuke both their countries and start from scratch? these animals will never stop warring on each other


having 188 posts and finding yourself in this thread. well done sir.

critically there is a doubt that B Netanyahu will follow through on this ceasefire. lets see where it goes...

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having 188 posts and finding yourself in this thread. well done sir.

critically there is a doubt that B Netanyahu will follow through on this ceasefire. lets see where it goes...


Hopefully he wouldnt,
He needs bring them down on their knees

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jan 16 2025 01:49pm
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Jan 17 2025 12:06pm
there is no doubt that the Hamas leadership was wiped out. however...



the TLDR here is that the Israeli ethnic cleansing and genocide has been the best recruitment drive that Hamas has ever seen.
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Jan 17 2025 12:15pm
and there was this

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For the fist time, Israel just lost a war

For 16 years, Israel has been forced to fight war after war in order to defend itself. It won the wars in 1948, 1967, and 1973. It fought Hezbollah to a draw in 2006.
That has just changed. The peace deal it just cut with Hamas was clearly a win for Hamas and a loss for Israel. No wonder people in Gaza are cheering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SRcKSUa558

This is what Hamas won in this war:
1. It turned world opinion against Israel.
2. It has negotiated the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, many of whom have been sentenced to life terms.
2. While some of its leaders were killed, they will be replaced with new ones.
3. While many of its fighters were killed, according press reports, Hamas has been rebuilding its fighting wing, which now has 12,000 soldiers in Gaza.
4. Hamas has proved that Israel is willing to give up huge amounts to get a small amount in return.
5. Hamas gets to claim proudly that the October 7, 2023 massacre brought about terrific results. In fact, Israel is weaker now than it was on October 6, 2023.
6. It really pays to take hostages.
7. While much of Gaza has been destroyed, the world is about to provide huge sums in order to rebuild it. One can expect that a significant amount of these sums will indirectly wind up in Hamas’ coffers.
8. Hamas will still control Gaza. UNRWA will remain as it has been.
9. The war has created a serious rift between Israel and the United States.
10. Initially, Hamas will only have to release three hostages. It will have to release 4 more hostages shortly after that. During phase one of the deal, only a total of 33 hostages will be released. Israel may trade more Palestinian prisoners being held by Hamas for more hostages after that. Thus, at the end of phase one of the deal, Hamas will be able to continue to hold roughly 30 hostages, some of whom may already be dead.
10. Israel has failed in its objectives as stated at the beginning of the war, which included the total elimination of Hamas in Gaza.
11. It pays to commit war crimes, including not only the war crimes that Hamas committed during the October 7th massacre, but by firing thousands of missiles into Israel, every one of them a war crime.
12. The cost to Israel of this war has been enormous. Not only has Hamas been able to kill over 400 Israeli soldiers in Gaza since the October 7th massacre, but Israel’s national debt has increased substantially and its economy has been hurt as well. It has been estimated that Israel’s economic activity has been reduced over 20% by the war.
13. While Israel will get some respite from Hamas forces in Gaza, it still has the remaining parts of Iran’s axis of resistance, including the Houthis and Hamas on the West Bank, and Iran, to deal with.
14. Israel will begin to to withdraw its troops from Gaza and, for now, the killing will cease.

What Israel has obtained that it did NOT have on October 6, 2023.
1. Almost nothing.

The deal has three phases. Apparently, the terms of phase one have been agreed to. Phases two and three require additional negotiations. Hamas could refuse to negotiate reasonable conditions during these phases, making sure that it does not give anything more to Israel. Not all of the hostages will have been released. Hamas will still be able to rebuild its system of tunnels of which roughly 40% still remain.

This is not the first time that Hamas and Israel have fought wars and an agreement was reached. Every time Hamas has broken its word and started yet another war. This happened most recently in 2021. Since then it has allowed Qatar to bring millions of dollars in aid to it in return for peace. In fact, during the following two years, Hamas built its complicated system of tunnels and thousands of missiles while preparing for the October 7th massacre. There is no reason to believe that Hamas will NOT break its word and attack Israel from Gaza again.

There is an irony to all of this. Netanyahu sold his soul to the racist, ultra-religious, ultra-right wing political parties led by Smotrich and Ben Gvir in order to put together a coalition that would allow him to once again become Israel’s Prime Minister. In order to achieve this, he gave Smotrich and Ben Gvir important ministries and great control over the West Bank while retaining the Foreign Ministry and Defense ministry for Likud. He did so believing that it was critical that he be the Prime Minister in any upcoming war, which was expected to come during his present term. Unfortunately, instead of his legacy being the man who could defend Israel, he will go down as the first Prime Minister of Israel ever to lose a war.
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/for-the-fist-time-israel-just-lost-a-war/
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For the fist time, Israel just lost a war

For 16 years, Israel has been forced to fight war after war in order to defend itself. It won the wars in 1948, 1967, and 1973. It fought Hezbollah to a draw in 2006.
That has just changed. The peace deal it just cut with Hamas was clearly a win for Hamas and a loss for Israel. No wonder people in Gaza are cheering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SRcKSUa558

This is what Hamas won in this war:
1. It turned world opinion against Israel.
2. It has negotiated the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, many of whom have been sentenced to life terms.
2. While some of its leaders were killed, they will be replaced with new ones.
3. While many of its fighters were killed, according press reports, Hamas has been rebuilding its fighting wing, which now has 12,000 soldiers in Gaza.
4. Hamas has proved that Israel is willing to give up huge amounts to get a small amount in return.
5. Hamas gets to claim proudly that the October 7, 2023 massacre brought about terrific results. In fact, Israel is weaker now than it was on October 6, 2023.
6. It really pays to take hostages.
7. While much of Gaza has been destroyed, the world is about to provide huge sums in order to rebuild it. One can expect that a significant amount of these sums will indirectly wind up in Hamas’ coffers.
8. Hamas will still control Gaza. UNRWA will remain as it has been.
9. The war has created a serious rift between Israel and the United States.
10. Initially, Hamas will only have to release three hostages. It will have to release 4 more hostages shortly after that. During phase one of the deal, only a total of 33 hostages will be released. Israel may trade more Palestinian prisoners being held by Hamas for more hostages after that. Thus, at the end of phase one of the deal, Hamas will be able to continue to hold roughly 30 hostages, some of whom may already be dead.
10. Israel has failed in its objectives as stated at the beginning of the war, which included the total elimination of Hamas in Gaza.
11. It pays to commit war crimes, including not only the war crimes that Hamas committed during the October 7th massacre, but by firing thousands of missiles into Israel, every one of them a war crime.
12. The cost to Israel of this war has been enormous. Not only has Hamas been able to kill over 400 Israeli soldiers in Gaza since the October 7th massacre, but Israel’s national debt has increased substantially and its economy has been hurt as well. It has been estimated that Israel’s economic activity has been reduced over 20% by the war.
13. While Israel will get some respite from Hamas forces in Gaza, it still has the remaining parts of Iran’s axis of resistance, including the Houthis and Hamas on the West Bank, and Iran, to deal with.
14. Israel will begin to to withdraw its troops from Gaza and, for now, the killing will cease.

What Israel has obtained that it did NOT have on October 6, 2023.
1. Almost nothing.

The deal has three phases. Apparently, the terms of phase one have been agreed to. Phases two and three require additional negotiations. Hamas could refuse to negotiate reasonable conditions during these phases, making sure that it does not give anything more to Israel. Not all of the hostages will have been released. Hamas will still be able to rebuild its system of tunnels of which roughly 40% still remain.

This is not the first time that Hamas and Israel have fought wars and an agreement was reached. Every time Hamas has broken its word and started yet another war. This happened most recently in 2021. Since then it has allowed Qatar to bring millions of dollars in aid to it in return for peace. In fact, during the following two years, Hamas built its complicated system of tunnels and thousands of missiles while preparing for the October 7th massacre. There is no reason to believe that Hamas will NOT break its word and attack Israel from Gaza again.

There is an irony to all of this. Netanyahu sold his soul to the racist, ultra-religious, ultra-right wing political parties led by Smotrich and Ben Gvir in order to put together a coalition that would allow him to once again become Israel’s Prime Minister. In order to achieve this, he gave Smotrich and Ben Gvir important ministries and great control over the West Bank while retaining the Foreign Ministry and Defense ministry for Likud. He did so believing that it was critical that he be the Prime Minister in any upcoming war, which was expected to come during his present term. Unfortunately, instead of his legacy being the man who could defend Israel, he will go down as the first Prime Minister of Israel ever to lose a war.
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/for-the-fist-time-israel-just-lost-a-war/


[Hamas wojak sitting in the middle of the smoldering ruins of bombed-out Gaza, on top of a pile of corpses, saying "hurray, we just won the war!!!"].jpg

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 17 2025 07:43pm
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[Hamas wojak sitting in the middle of the smoldering ruins of bombed-out Gaza, on top of a pile of corpses, saying "hurray, we just won the war!!!"].jpg


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