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Jan 15 2025 06:22pm
Man yea les just ban every food we cant afford them anyway.
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Jan 15 2025 07:35pm
Oh look:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/08/health/fluoride-children-iq.html

Funny how all those things get acknowledged days before Trump and RFK Jr. take over. ^_^
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Jan 15 2025 10:41pm
the fda can suck it.
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Jan 16 2025 10:12am
I think you're majoring in the minors when you focus on the damage of red dye and not the damage of not vaccinating against disease. In what year did you become a crank?
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Jan 16 2025 10:20am
I think you're majoring in the minors when you focus on the damage of red dye and not the damage of not vaccinating against disease. In what year did you become a crank?


vaccinations like Hep B are a good thing for society, there's just no reason we need to stuff them into a 2 day old baby. rounds of vaccinations should be given once the risk factor for transmission present themselves, in the case of Hep B that's needle sharing and sexual contact. pretty safe to assume 2 day old babies aren't shooting up in-between rounds of unprotected sex.

im just shocked that all of the rest of the civilized world still exists, by this point i'd have assumed they must have succumbed to the infections diseases they dont vaccinate babies for that we do. i mean we give 2x more vaccines than any other western nation, so we must be 2x more healthy, right?

timing is everything of course, i got my hep B vaccine in middle school without any issue, as most kids should. but there's no more valuable spot in all of pharmaceuticals i'd wager than the newborn vaccine schedule. not shocked that in the modern excuse for discourse any vaccine hesitancy is perceived as outright quackery. although it is terrible ironic when 90% of the time the rest of the western world is placed in a pedestal for how we should be. socialized medicine, fervent immigration, expanded social services, paid family leave, the list goes on almost forever. ive heard 1,000 time or so in my life how we should be more European in every aspect we're not, but bring up banning the foods they ban and administer the medicine they do when they do and you're a tinfoil wearing uneducated fool.

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vaccinations like Hep B are a good thing for society, there's just no reason we need to stuff them into a 2 day old baby. rounds of vaccinations should be given once the risk factor for transmission present themselves, in the case of Hep B that's needle sharing and sexual contact. pretty safe to assume 2 day old babies aren't shooting up in-between rounds of unprotected sex.

im just shocked that all of the rest of the civilized world still exists, by this point i'd have assumed they must have succumbed to the infections diseases they dont vaccinate babies for that we do. i mean we give 2x more vaccines than any other western nation, so we must be 2x more healthy, right?

timing is everything of course, i got my hep B vaccine in middle school without any issue, as most kids should. but there's no more valuable spot in all of pharmaceuticals i'd wager than the newborn vaccine schedule. not shocked that in the modern excuse for discourse any vaccine hesitancy is perceived as outright quackery. although it is terrible ironic when 90% of the time the rest of the western world is placed in a pedestal for how we should be. socialized medicine, fervent immigration, expanded social services, paid family leave, the list goes on almost forever. ive heard 1,000 time or so in my life how we should be more European in every aspect we're not, but bring up banning the foods they ban and administer the medicine they do when they do and you're a tinfoil wearing uneducated fool.


RFK Jr's career is casting doubt on vaccines, which happen to save lives every year. I don't know why you would promote a man like that.
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Jan 16 2025 10:33am
RFK Jr's career is casting doubt on vaccines, which happen to save lives every year. I don't know why you would promote a man like that.


Kamala made her career putting countless pot smokers in prison and breaking family units all over her state, how could you support her?

his career was mostly environmental legal work, if he made money suing for vaccines that would mean he won, and they were bad vaccines. but of course that's not his career, it's his reputation.

RFK Jr. is too far towards "vaccines are bad" for my taste, but he's pretty near my stances on a lot of other issues like food dye, excess sugar, petroleum based ingredients, newborn vaccine schedule timing, additives, fluoride in tap water, etc. Most importantly however he's the only person i know of in all of politics who can sit in that role and potentially do something about these issues. Left, Right, and Center politicians have sat in that chair and not gotten a damn thing done.

as a personal question is there a reason you personally reduce RFK Jr. down to a vague vaccine stance, rather than ever addressing his actual political platform? i think this is the 3rd or so time you've done when we've talked on this topic.
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Jan 16 2025 10:35am
In EU, we even have a general guidance label for a healthy food on any consumable product. It goes from A to E (healthy to unhealthy). Even if you're a busy uninformed noob, you get a general idea. You can look up here:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/product-requirements/food-labelling/general-rules/index_en.htm
RFK Jr should just copy those at first then see which to remove or what to add later. The reason being, France, Italy and Spain depend on selling high quality brand food/products which cannot be produced cheaply. Their lobbies (surprise surprise) enforced minimum food standards in all of the EU to be able to distinguish their products from cheap knockoffs from elsewhere. No sane person is gonna buy a chlorinated chicken from the US for that reason. At the moment, they are working at a legislation to ban any kind use of sugar in foods which shouldn't contain sugar. Higher tax for sweets just like for cigarettes are also being discussed.


European countries systems, for the most part are vastly better. Hopefully they continue to reject disgusting North American pig food but unfortunately I see our fast food influence starting to rise significantly over there.

Talking about vaccines, blah blah blah, the real attention should be shifted to the fact America it sitting at 42% overweight, 30%+ in the obesity category. The amount of heart diseases, illnesses, etc. that must come from the food and lack of physical exercise has to greatly outweigh almost every other health issue as smoking has slowly dropped off.
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Jan 16 2025 10:40am
European countries systems, for the most part are vastly better. Hopefully they continue to reject disgusting North American pig food but unfortunately I see our fast food influence starting to rise significantly over there.

Talking about vaccines, blah blah blah, the real attention should be shifted to the fact America it sitting at 42% overweight, 30%+ in the obesity category. The amount of heart diseases, illnesses, etc. that must come from the food and lack of physical exercise has to greatly outweigh almost every other health issue as smoking has slowly dropped off.


you're not wrong that obesity is a far greater issue. but shifting the vaccine schedule to being done on older children instead of babies is easy, convincing people to eat less mcdonalds and work out is hard. ill take an easy niche issue over a complex general issue any day when it comes to policy and legislation.
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Jan 16 2025 10:56am
you're not wrong that obesity is a far greater issue. but shifting the vaccine schedule to being done on older children instead of babies is easy, convincing people to eat less mcdonalds and work out is hard. ill take an easy niche issue over a complex general issue any day when it comes to policy and legislation.


In my opinion there's really no reason you can't do both but in my opinion now there needs to be a change and a much heavier focus on food and communication of the crap you're putting in the body and frankly there should be shame for eating that stuff. Slap cigarette level warnings all over the food. When I walk into the little grocery store I have here, I am disgusted. Great example, we have 4 total isles of food much smaller than your 7/11. At-least 2/3rds is junk. Cereal, chips, pop, cookies, bullshit frozen pre-made meals. It has become gross.

I don't know if USA cigarette packages require pictures of diseased organs and tongues and stuff but here in Canada they do. Should be the same thing for bad food because its leading to the same levels of harm at this point.

This post was edited by SBD on Jan 16 2025 10:58am
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