How has your uber smiter been doing now?
I also use a treachery armor and get fade to proc before ubers too....that helps a ton

Better, I’m surviving a little more now. I was able to do my first torch run, Meoh was easy. Baal and Diablo took more time there’s so many minions it’s hard to clear to be able to attack Baal and Diablo. I haven’t run the mini Ubers in a bit, have to try Lilith again.

Yeah, but make a treachery..it will really make things much easier

Lilith seems to pose trouble. Hard to get to her and all the minions along the way. The other 2 are easy.

Ubers seems to be a bit easier, Meph can be trouble put I tossed on tgods and use conviction and seems easier. Baal and Diablo are no trouble *knock on wood

good to hear...ya little adjustments seem to make a big difference

After extensive testing I have concluded that Lawbringer pb > Grief pb for ubers. Furthermore, certain utility auras are far more noticeably impactful than Fanaticism, which I have concluded is mostly just a meme aura. Whatever increased damage it provides is barely noticeable, same with grief, whereas if you have Holy Freeze up and everything around you is instantly decrepified (20% chance on Lawbringer) you’ll definitely notice it. Cleansing is another utility aura which when paired with a maxed prayer counters lillith pretty hard and also matron’s trash which casts curses. Maybe you could try a nadir and use the CoS charges to really just shut them down altogether. But for sure once isolated against lilith shes a lot less scary decrepped and with her poison mostly negated. It does feel strange to uber without lifetap but halving their damage output against you is more consistent and easier way to kill them. For offense ALL you need from the rest of your gear is some amount of cb and some amount of open wounds, which you can get from Duress, and and anything else you get is just bonus.

you're losing a lot of damage by not using an elite shield. id use a 4x perfect diamond/um elite base over that exile

you can put a few points in zeal(just need 5 hits) to use for clearing

I experimented with some of these suggestions--you are right--they helped a lot!

Glad they helped! I saw your suggestion for treachery for fade and I agree for early ladder before you can build up your inventory, having the extra res helps quite a bit along with thawing/antidote pots. My only issue is sometimes it takes so long for it to activate and then if you get a bad spawn for ubers and you chicken out, you have to do it all over again. That's why I tend to just go brute force. You also don't get 400fg for the first few unid torches anymore like you could do at the start of the pandemic, so not in a rush to be the first one making torches anymore with ladder resets and wait an extra couple days to have the full gear needed to survive easily.



For ubers, are you going through the north middle house to pull meph then looping around and standing behind the south middle house to pull baal? If you do that, you fight each boss 1v1 and you don't get flooded with spawns, still some games they will spawn more than other just luck of the draw, but this way there isn't an army you need to fight through to get to them, especially with baal popping out physical immunes.

Yes, I know how to pull each 1v1. I don’t really struggle with Ubers as much as I do the mini Ubers, in particular Lilith and all her minions. Sometimes I pull Baal and Diablo spawns too so I have to focus on tying to kill the two of them amongst all their minions. Meph can be tricky sometimes but I usually just slap on a Tgods and conviction instead of Fanta and it’s no problem.

Like I said the main problem is getting to Lilith and facing her alone without having to clear everything. Other two are pretty straight forward. And if I pull Baal correctly after I kill Meph, the rest is easy using pretty much the same gear I started with, only with some tweaks everyone’s suggested in this thread. I’m still using exile though, haven’t gone to an elite 4sox shield or tried to switch coh for fort/enigma.