https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/11/altadena-california-fires-climate-change-00197658
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ewe4p9128o
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/11/is-climate-change-to-blame-for-the-california-wildfires
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/09/los-angeles-wildfires-climate-disasters
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/climate/california-fires-climate-change-disasters.html
https://abcnews.go.com/US/climate-change-contributed-extreme-wildfires-california/story?id=117475669
https://time.com/7205622/california-wildfires-climate-change-conditions/



I told you all the green scam would capitalize on this tragedy to push it's agenda.

e- all those homes that had gas heating and gas appliances,
they'll be forced to used electric if rebuilt, Green Scam forbids gas.

Or maybe they'll build some High Density Housing after buying the land cheap.
How perfect, the power lines needed to be replaced anyways because the grid couldn't handle the electric toll.

How about all those Electric Cars that burnt in the fire, no mention of those in there.
Apparently manufacturing and burning electric cars isn't bad for the environment?

"How you should think about xyz."
It's a scam! It's telling you how to think~!

This post was edited by Mondain on Jan 12 2025 12:17pm

was actually DEI hiring and wokeism.


similarly to jasper ontario, was probably man made.


This post was edited by Budgeting on Jan 12 2025 12:28pm

Is it illegal for them to return? I've not seen anything on this. Do you have a source?

Damn price tag keeps going up. Fed bailout looking damn near certain otherwise we might see wholesale insurance co failures

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https://x.com/biancoresearch/status/1878631360363135236?s=46


This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 12 2025 08:33pm

sorry was afk,

The press brief today jan 12, 2025, the police, chief?, made a statement about the situations.
He said people are not allowed to return to their property.

Looks like some folks were able but only with police escort.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/evacuees-start-returning-checking-homes-080727387.html
e-
e-How very authoritarian.

They have a major Looting problem in Commiefornia,
it would be difficult to tell who is a criminal vs a victim.
Or atleast that's the situation that commiefornia created for themselves.
on purpose for totalitarian authority or by mistake with soft on crime views.

But anyways, yeah, it was/is illegal for people to go to their property,
And there was a 6pm curfew for the area, so the thugs,
I mean police could arrest anyone violating that.

This post was edited by Mondain on Jan 12 2025 11:39pm

I agree with OP.

So the primary "heavy" rainy season in SoCal is February-April. The fires are wiping out trees that anchor hills and shrubbery that anchor topsoil.

Any guesses as to the severity of the mudslides that're going to follow the fires?

Also kind of funny that I've seen this before, in Oregon. Entire swathes of rural homeowners who took extreme precautions against wildfires were mandatorily "evacuated" so they could not save their own homes. The government shut off their electricity so their pumping systems would no longer work, and there was nobody there to create burn lines, ditches, sandbag blocks, etc, or fight minor ember-started fires as they happened. The fires, and following mudslides destroyed not just the homes and outbuildings, crops etc. They also destroyed roads, piping, electrical/phone/internet lines. They effectively turned the properties into rural/undeveloped. Further, due both the mudslides and the fires, the areas were now considered "environmental hazards unfit for human occupation". Using this veneer of an excuse, the State forced the property owners to sell their land for $3000/acre, pennies on the dollar for what they were worth, with zero option granted to retain those properties. The majority of those lands were then sold, by the State, to corporations like Blackrock for tens of thousands per acre, and are now used for everything from corporate pot farming to development projects for housing that they're charging a quarter million+ an acre for. Further, homeowners insurance did not cover wildfires and mudslides, because homeowners insurance did not cover acts of god.

It was interesting to see a method of governmental land theft utilized in rural, low-populated areas applied to Maui. Now, I fully expect to watch with intense interest as it's applied to LA, one of the most populace metro areas on the planet. Should be fun.

Edit: It's interesting seeing discussion of financial markets and national insurers being forced by law to cover damages for acts of god. IF true, national insurers are going to go bankrupt, and quite frankly, that sounds like exactly the thing that a socialist State government would seek. When the only "fallback" is the government, then the government owns you.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jan 13 2025 12:08pm

Thanks for the update tistuff.

They werent allowed to return. But oh wait yes they were.

InsaneBobb brings up a good point about the mudslides.

If we look back to 2018, a notable year for mudslides in south california.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Southern_California_mudflows
Cause: Soil saturation from heavy rainfall, and deforestation due to recent wildfires

All those hills that burned in the LA area are now much more likely to have future disasters.

Even the wiki page for mudflows says : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflow

I'm no expert on LA or Mudflow,
perhaps someone can chime in who knows a bit more about it?

This is an interesting perspective I'd not considered originally.
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oh gosh, how dare I educate myself by doing research before a post.
That's unacceptable in pard! (sarcasm)

This post was edited by Mondain on Jan 13 2025 05:13pm