Israel must prepare for potential war with Turkey, Nagel Committee warns
The committee, established by the government, warns that Turkey’s ambitions to restore its Ottoman-era influence could lead to heightened tensions with Israel, possibly escalating into conflict.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-836362

I feel there is a bit of nuance here. I feel its more a case of digging in the back garden and in the spring time seeing weeds and plants that you didnt realize you helped plant, growing all over the place. It is quite hilarious how Israel can look outside of its boarders and say "well cause and effect is about to hit us" but then internally (or in the case of Gaza and the West Bank) not understanding this concept. selective rationale thought I guess?

in the meantime here is a 2025 song which is, relatively, relevant. Karma.



This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 7 2025 03:16pm

After all we've done for Israel, the least they could do is liberate Anatolia for us, drive the Turks back into the hills

Trump’s Middle East envoy visits Netanyahu in push for Gaza ceasefire

Hamas said on Monday that it had given mediators a list of 34 Israeli captives who were seized during the group’s attack on Israel on 7 October 2023 that triggered the war, and who could be freed as part of the “first phase of a prisoner exchange deal”.

Hamas insists that any negotiations to secure the release of hostages must form part of a comprehensive pact to end the hostilities in Gaza, while Netanyahu is seeking a more segmented agreement, aiming for a deal that would see the liberation of some, though not all, hostages, while simultaneously preserving Israel’s prerogative to recommence hostilities against Hamas upon the deal’s expiration.

Israel’s offensive in Gaza has killed at least 46,537 Palestinians and wounded 109,571 since 7 October 2023, the Palestinian territory’s health ministry said on Saturday. About 1,200 Israelis were killed and 250 taken hostage in the Hamas attack.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/11/white-house-working-on-hostage-release-deal-between-hamas-and-israel-says-cia-director

There will be no agreement where Hamas stays in Gaza in my opinion

At this point, Israel should really be able to wrap up their campaign in Gaza. It's been 15 months, how much longer will it take to achieve their goals?


The key obstacle I see is that Netanyahu's government will fall as soon as this war is over, so he has no actual interest in it ending.

it wont change the fact that Hamas wont be in Gaza after this war.
with netanyahu or without.

So what if support for Hamas can't be completely rooted out among Gazans? Keep the current situation up for how many more years? 1? 3? 10?
The way I see it, Israel has decimated about 95% of the Hamas structures which can possibly be destroyed, and the "return on investment//collateral damage per achieved goal" will be horrible from here on out.

At the very least, I think it is time to formulate an actual and realistic exit strategy.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 12 2025 08:16pm

Even if it takes 10 years, Israel has already significantly impacted about 65% of Gaza, and if necessary, we are prepared to continue until the objective is achieved and they surrender.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jan 13 2025 12:11am

israel won't stop until it borders from the river to the sea. Genocide and war crimes committed in west bank and gaza and now illegal occupation in syria is just another step in what israel considers the right direction.

https://images.app.goo.gl/NfzKbuHps6MaS3aA8

time for the West to wake up and cry wolf - the only sheep in israel is the guys blindly following and enabling the horros that's happening under netanyahu