Gonna take my favorite setup as an exemple :
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/fjbup0mq

Base weapon dmg : 68-801
That’s 434.5 avg base dmg
17% ed = 73.9 bonus avg dmg

Total off-weapon ed = 1830%
+10max = 5 avg dmg
5 * 19.3 = 96.5 bonus avg dmg

Those numbers will vary depending on the build. But here, 10/76 is 30.6% better than skillers if we look only at dmg.
You also already have very high %ar, so flat ar is much better than adding extra bonus % ar.
But like I said, I would personally just go with skillers, cuz they’re so much cheaper and really not that bad.

Edit :
When using a perf eDeath decap or eBotd TM, the base dmg is higher, so in that case a skiller can beat the bonus dmg from a +10max, but the ar is still way less.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Jan 10 2025 03:11pm

Sadly we should put zod in ereapers, not jewel. Other question where to spend 20+ skill points remaining. Can go for Grizzly, but is it even good to spend more than 1 point? He is slow and used only for meat shield/crowd control. Maybe wolves ? Or just Max Feral Rage?

What about using gface with 15ias/40ed jewel + 1 ravenfrost for self reaper? Also, zod in reapers as mentioned above.

Pvm:
Eth reapers zod build.

Either fana bramble merc or pride bramble might merc.

Summons + decreap + thorns are nice.
Safe build and good damage.

nvm, i forgot about the utility of mark of the bear and wolf, sry. I think I like edeath + self reapers on swap now. You still have a ton of life without BO. Although, i'd still want to run fortitude and pride merc and give up max IAS breakpoint for death. I'd also run nosferatu instead of string of ears. It helps ereapers reach best IAS breakpoint with zod.

This post was edited by pat777b on Jan 11 2025 02:30am

Sounds like a solid setup!

decrep useless imo, druid do so much leech and dmg i dont see any use for defensive setup unless you doing ubers

You do understand that decrep is not used at for defensive purposes, but for the -50% dr?
Without it you can’t fight all the physical immunes.
Without it you lose 1/2 of your dmg vs 50% dr mobs.
Without it you lose 1/3 of your dmg vs 0% dr mobs.

Pride is only 345ed on top of the 1800+ that you already have. So its very little increase compared to it, and it does not fix your problem about phys immunes.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Jan 11 2025 06:52am

You can’t play a real pvm shifter without meta.
It’s not 25ias, it’s reducing the base WSM of your weapon by -25.
With both mark active, it’s literally like combining Guillaume + CoA + Jalal + cham + ~5 ias jewel into a single helm!

+8 to fury/HoW +5 to wolf/lycan
CbF
-25wsm
20% dr
30% ar
40% life
25% CB
10@
20 stats

Oops my bad, I put it all together too fast and forgot to put zod in the reaper… I had many planner sheet open at once, that ias jewel in reaper came from the other builds where it was used on merc

But we don’t need this extra ias anyway, with zod in there you just need 2 SS skillers to reach lvl 38 wolf on cta side so you still only need 40ias for max fpa.
HL + LoH is already 40ias, so the rest of the build won’t change.