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Jan 8 2025 04:43pm
Controlled burns are great for the environment, because when done right they prevent large forest fires. Burning wood does cause harmful emissions though, burning anything does.


It does not emit more than letting it rot . A good read on this topic is Norwegian Wood: Chopping, Stacking, and Drying Wood.

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Jan 8 2025 05:06pm
It does not emit more than letting it rot . A good read on this topic is Norwegian Wood: Chopping, Stacking, and Drying Wood.


You think the forms of energy released are exactly identical? That's ridiculous. If you just mean CO2, you're correct, but burning something(even a tree) results in many other noxious chemicals.

Edit: I don't even think it's true of CO2 actually. It releases most of the carbon it contains as CO2 when burnt, whereas in decomposition most of the carbon will remain in the soil.

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Jan 8 2025 06:11pm
Have no fear California, thankfully your government decolonized firefighting and made it so much more diverse and less white and male.



Big shoutout to the guy upstairs for this epic smite of LA

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Jan 8 2025 06:13pm
controlled fires arent banned here!
there are a limited days when they are possible (these are heavily condition-dependent obviously) and the budget for firefighters in most counties is getting smaller and smaller and smaller
a bunch of ranchers and farmers in my local area have controlled burns all the time, its the federal land that isnt getting the attention it needs
lack of controlled burns + droughts + winds + global warming = disaster


https://cepr.net/us-forest-service-decision-to-halt-prescribed-burns-in-california-is-history-repeating/

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According to NPR, the Trestle Project faced “staffing shortages, pushback from environmental groups, too many days when prescribed burns would be dangerous due to hotter, drier conditions caused by climate change,” and, most importantly, a lack of funding. Unfortunately, the Trestle Project’s setbacks left Grizzly Flats and other El Dorado County communities vulnerable to the scenario the Forest Service had modeled. Tellingly, as the fire moved east toward Lake Tahoe, the community of Kirkwood was spared thanks to an escaped prescribed burn in 2019.


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You think the forms of energy released are exactly identical? That's ridiculous. If you just mean CO2, you're correct, but burning something(even a tree) results in many other noxious chemicals.

Edit: I don't even think it's true of CO2 actually. It releases most of the carbon it contains as CO2 when burnt, whereas in decomposition most of the carbon will remain in the soil.


That is a great point and actually is a reason to burn vs let it rot. The emitted gases combust better in the high efficiency stoves. You should really check that book out. The wood supply was crucial for WWII countries and some decent case studies around it
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That is a great point and actually is a reason to burn vs let it rot. The emitted gases combust better in the high efficiency stoves. You should really check that book out. The wood supply was crucial for WWII countries and some decent case studies around it


Letting it rot is also moronic, as it dries out long before it rots, which of course creates the fire hazard.
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Jan 8 2025 06:42pm
Letting it rot is also moronic, as it dries out long before it rots, which of course creates the fire hazard.


(satire)
OMG did you just suggest that we don't allow some bug that is part of the environment to have a natural home!
You must HATE the environment!

^ this is the type of green scam shit that's happening,
I'm not kidding, these people are out of their minds.

The green scam supporters come up with every possible excuse.
Like I mentioned in the OP, a Newt is more important than forests and homes, to them.

They completely ignore the fact that a wild forest fire will burn up entire forests and cities.
They will give you hell if you even suggest doing a controlled burn because a critter may be harmed.

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The number one cause of damage from natural disasters, whether its flooding or fires, is always the same. Encroachment into hazardous areas. Building in floodplains or below sea level, building in hills prone to wildfires. And thats the case here.

From a policy side the worst fuckup is how insurers have been driven out of california with their heavy regulations aimed at making what was already difficult to insure properties, impossible to insure. You can't squeeze blood from a stone. Forget the brush management, forget that California had record rainfall a year ago and was demolishing dams instead of building new reservoirs to retain that water- if you know wildfires ravage your homes and simultaneously make homes uninsurable with insane fiscal policy, you've destroyed the #1 relief tool that exists for natural disasters
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The number one cause of damage from natural disasters, whether its flooding or fires, is always the same. Encroachment into hazardous areas. Building in floodplains or below sea level, building in hills prone to wildfires. And thats the case here.

From a policy side the worst fuckup is how insurers have been driven out of california with their heavy regulations aimed at making what was already difficult to insure properties, impossible to insure. You can't squeeze blood from a stone. Forget the brush management, forget that California had record rainfall a year ago and was demolishing dams instead of building new reservoirs to retain that water- if you know wildfires ravage your homes and simultaneously make homes uninsurable with insane fiscal policy, you've destroyed the #1 relief tool that exists for natural disasters


The demolishing of dams was due to the green scam.
Gotta save some fish! A newt! or even a bug!

Insurance for these homes could and would have been possible if measure were taken.
Measures that are blocked by the green scam.
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