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Jan 2 2025 03:39am
Hey guys, I want to level a light sorc and I was wondering wich armor will give me the Most damage.

From what I‘ve seen most people run Enigma, Coh Viper or lightning ormus.

Ormus with a 5/5 facet seems to win when it comes to damage (obviously)
But shouldn‘t an 4 socket armor with 4x 5/5 beat ormus with ease?
Since ormus doesn‘t provide defensive stats you wouldn‘t loose anything but 20fcr.

With griffon ,2/17+ amu, 35 spirit, Arach and magefist you reach the fcr breakpoint without the need of fcr rings or weapon (I want to Go for crescent moon)

I get the Ormus vs Enigma/coh debate since you loose a lot of great stats when going Ormus.

But if you are willing to drop those stats for damage why Not go all in and use a 4x 5/5 armor with life or something.

Why would I use ormus for max damage? Is it because 2/20 amulets are so expensive?
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Jan 2 2025 11:10am
if youre looking for most damage on the character sheet, ormus with 5/5 will lead. Seeing as though youre planning on using a cresent moon instead of eschutas, its safe to assume youre looking for clearing enemies fastest.
if youre looking to do the most DPS for clearing enemies, you need to account for the Minus light resist on enemies.


117 FCR with max damage would be achieved with

40% eschutas
25% griffs
20% trangs glove
20% ormus
20% arach
SOJs/BKs
+3 light ammy

dont know if Spirit or -20/20 shield gives more damage. But i'm more than certain the -20% would be better for clearing purposes.

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Jan 2 2025 04:16pm
if youre looking for most damage on the character sheet, ormus with 5/5 will lead. Seeing as though youre planning on using a cresent moon instead of eschutas, its safe to assume youre looking for clearing enemies fastest.
if youre looking to do the most DPS for clearing enemies, you need to account for the Minus light resist on enemies.


117 FCR with max damage would be achieved with

40% eschutas
25% griffs
20% trangs glove
20% ormus
20% arach
SOJs/BKs
+3 light ammy

dont know if Spirit or -20/20 shield gives more damage. But i'm more than certain the -20% would be better for clearing purposes.


Ty for the reply! Yeah I dont Care for Sheet damage, only clearspeed.

So its basicly - 15 enemy res vs 3 to lightning.
I guess the 4 facet armor will help against sundered enemys more but ormus may outdamage it vs non immunes, especialy since I lack + skills and already have high - res with crescent moon.

The 3/10 amu is a good point.
Since you need at least 2/17 on amu without ormus you basicly loose one more + skill with the facet armor…

So I guess ormus beats it , with crescent moon at least. May be different with echuta/Hoto.

Speaking of echuta, you guys think 200fcr build is worth it?

This post was edited by Junglist69 on Jan 2 2025 04:17pm
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I dont know of any 3/10 ammy, you would want a 3/100life ammy or go to maras for the +2 BO and resist. What you dont need is FCR.

I wouldn't try hitting 194 fcr personally because then you need 2 fcr rings and fcr ammy. The extra 8% casting speed might not amount to much for monsters that will take 2-3 hits any way.

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Jan 3 2025 01:32am
You are right, Ormus spirit arach mages and griffon are enough to Hit 120 fcr without Amulet or rings

So you dont need fcr on amu with Ormus

Going for a 4 facette armor though you either need a 2/17 amu or a 3/10 and one fcr ring to make up for the loss of 20 fcr from ormus.
So you basicly get -15 more enemy res but loose out on +3 to lightning from ormus and on +1 lightning from amu or +1 all Skills from a soj.

117 FCR with max damage would be achieved with

40% eschutas
25% griffs
20% trangs glove
20% ormus
20% arach
SOJs/BKs
+3 light ammy

dont know if Spirit or -20/20 shield gives more damage. But i'm more than certain the -20% would be better for clearing purposes.


I dont think I would ever run echutas on a 117 light sorc. -35 enemy res from crescent moon gives so much more damage than the + 3 skills from echuta.
Especialy since the % damage from echuta is Just added to Lightning mastery. thats why crescent moon Is better than 6x RBF crystal sword , too even though it only has 5 more - res vs 30% extra damage on the 6 facette sword.

As described in the beginning, the 40 fcr on weapon is Not needed at all , especialy with ormus or maybe viper.
So for damage Crescent moon >>>> echuta.

I would only roll with echuta in a 200 fcr setup

For the shield I would not drop spirit on a lightning sorc. Its basicly like dropping Ormus for 4 facette armor but worse.
when dropping spirit you Loose even more fcr wich would mean a 2/20 amu and twofcr rings would be needed, loosing more + skills and also the nice defensive stats of spirit.

So to sum it up:
weapon:
Echuta(5/5) vs Crescent moon: -30 less Enemy res is way better than + 3 skills even without fcr. Trading FCR for damage nets you by far the most in this Slot, so I‘m set for crescent moon.

Shield:
Spirit vs 4facette Monarch/jmod : -20 less enemy res , while loosing a lot of fcr,+ skills and also defensiv stats.

Armor:
Ormus(5/5) vs 4facette armor : -15 less enemy light res, while only loosing a bit of fcr (one 2/17+ amu solves it) and Not loosing any defensive stats, maybe even gaining some (Go for 4os + life armor and 2/17 res + amu)


In the End its always Fcr and + skills vs less Enemy res on all These slots.
You gain the most from trading that on your weapon , by far.

It may be worth it on armor since you dont Loose that much fcr and no defensive stats there but it only gives aditional -15 less Enemy res

Its never worth it on the shield, since you loose by far the most stats
Crippling your rings/amu to compensate.



One last contender: what about self Infinity? It works on nova, why not on Lightning?
You can get -55 enemy res on it , the Same as crescent moon + 4 rbf monarch.

Gear for fcr would be: 25 Griffon, 20 mages, 20 arach 2/12+ amu , Viper and 1x Fcr ring (Or ormus + 2x fcr ring).

I know Infinity on Nova is Great because your merc then can use insight which is awesome since you run Energy shield on nova sorc.

on a Lightning sorc without Es insight is not needed, though. but maybe use an a5 merc with Plague to Proc lower resist?

So with Self Infinity you can get -55 enemy res from weapon , conviction aura and on top lower Res procs from your new merc.

In theory this should give you the Most damage possible with 117 fcr, or am I missing something?

This post was edited by Junglist69 on Jan 3 2025 01:38am
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Jan 3 2025 11:41am
20/20 does give you a bit of a damage boost but it's just not worth it. your survivability and qol takes a big hit, most likely to the extent where it slows you down more than the damage boost speeds you up.

if you want an actual upgrade over a standard cmoon build, your best option is to buy a ridiculously expensive 2 soc 5-6/20 orb

40% eschutas
25% griffs
20% trangs glove
20% ormus
20% arach
SOJs/BKs
+3 light ammy


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