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Jan 1 2025 07:00am
Played poe1 alot, and now playing poe2 alot. And played wow alot, dont feel i wanna go back to wow:D
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Jan 1 2025 07:51am
Its still in early access. They know the end game needs a lot of work. And the fact that this is an actual EA as opposed to the marketing gimmick cash grab most companies do now should be extremely encouraging for the launch of this game and the subsequent years of further developments/upgrades as time goes on.


well tbh they just called it what it is, an EA. but they did grab a lot of cash and marketing helped a lot with it, so i dont really see any difference other than pure semantics :wacko:

also yes there will be years of further developments, but ggg is more than well compensated for them, as the current business model and good PR made them earn way more $ per player than if they had just sold the game one time like for example grim dawn did. btw now that i mentioned grim dawn, they have been actually developing the game for years after release, and unlike ggg, since the game was sold once, it has really been WITHOUT compensation :wacko: imo grim dawn beats poe2 in literally every aspect :mellow:

sad to see that poe has so much more players than grim dawn not because of the game quality, but marketing and business model. all smoke and mirrors <_< poe is "multiplayer focused", while in reality its a single player game, just on a server (which makes it even worse as you dont own your characters and can lose them for any or no reason). then poe is "free to play", while in reality if you dont pay at least 50$ it is pretty much unplayable. dont fall for this trap brother, ggg is anything BUT honest :wacko:

This post was edited by Snyft2 on Jan 1 2025 07:52am
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Jan 1 2025 09:04am
Yeah a game that is still #4 most played on steam 24 hour charts which doesn't include the people who don't play through steam is gonna die soon

Lets ignore the fact that the game is in early access and the company has a track record of 13 years of adjusting gameplay based on feedback to suit what the players want.

Yet people on this website still think D2R is alive when its less than 20k players during a new season

smh


that literally answered all questions, topic closed.
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Jan 1 2025 09:46am
With the exception of campaign and grafics poe1 is better in every single aspect but it's still 1 year+ away from release, so we'll get there eventually?


I think its funny that when D4 did an early release of two weeks people were hate spamming it, but poe does a 1 year early release and they are like oh but will be there eventually..
all i am saying, is this is the exact same argument made on why d4 sucked ..

This post was edited by koleague on Jan 1 2025 09:47am
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Jan 1 2025 10:02am
I think its funny that when D4 did an early release of two weeks people were hate spamming it, but poe does a 1 year early release and they are like oh but will be there eventually..
all i am saying, is this is the exact same argument made on why d4 sucked ..


well the difference is we already seen it with diablo 3, blizzard really tried but failed cause no talent. Then there was diablo immortal which was nothing but an obvious scam
Another difference is, poe2 EA and also poe1 are already in a better state than d3 and d4 ever was

Can't really compare that with GGG and poe2, but sure theres a chance poe2 will be dogshit on release and even years after

This post was edited by kku on Jan 1 2025 10:24am
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Jan 1 2025 11:27am
I think its funny that when D4 did an early release of two weeks people were hate spamming it, but poe does a 1 year early release and they are like oh but will be there eventually..
all i am saying, is this is the exact same argument made on why d4 sucked ..


i made a topic about marketing lessons and will mention that as well :blush: ! but basically poe has a large, heavily biased audience. they have invested so much money into poe that the sunken cost is high af. they are literally praising ggg director as God :wacko: they will be quick to defend ggg's actions and attack anyone and anything that does anything differently, because if its not the way ggg does it, its wrong :mellow:

on the other hand, you have d2 audience, which, although unbiased, just wants to play good games and d4 unfortunately isnt it :mellow: and since poe2 doesnt try to market itself as a d2 successor, they dont care about it much :blush:


edit: so basically d4 needs to form a new audience, and for that you need a good game :wacko:

This post was edited by Snyft2 on Jan 1 2025 11:28am
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Jan 1 2025 10:32pm
anyone else just think the game isn’t that great? also it’s funny the devs drop this turd and run off to some woke extended vacation. they are losing the benefit of the doubt very quickly….their streamer paid shills can only hold the line so long, same goes for the “bUT iTs EarLy aCCeS” crowd


lmfao "woke vacation" what a cornball. show us where the woke bogeyman touched you on the doll, lil guy
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Jan 1 2025 10:34pm
It’s a complete piece of shit. I agree with you. Not sure how they thought this was an improvement. Why on earth would they make the campaign longer and the map layouts worse. If they don’t do a drastic overhaul to the beginning of the game then it’s going to fall flat and only the group that rides ggg are going to stay. No way the player base goes up from this.


100% skill issue. less than 30 hours for the campaign on multiple characters.
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Jan 1 2025 10:47pm
100% skill issue. less than 30 hours for the campaign on multiple characters.


Yup. We do not want campaigns to be anywhere near 30 hours and maps to have long dead ends.
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Jan 2 2025 01:41am
anyone else just think the game isn’t that great? also it’s funny the devs drop this turd and run off to some woke extended vacation. they are losing the benefit of the doubt very quickly….their streamer paid shills can only hold the line so long, same goes for the “bUT iTs EarLy aCCeS” crowd


woke extended vacation? you mean christmas and new years, a break that literally the entire western world takes?

this is a troll topic, dont feed OP
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