Quote (El1te @ 1 Jan 2025 23:53)

It blows my mind that people still think the problems are about anything other than race & religion, it's a special kind of mental blocking even by highly intelligent people

Guy was a citizen & army veteran, still doesn't matter at all because he's a brown muslim, means absolutely nothing because it's an enemy tribe who will *always* hate us as a matter of biological principle

Quote (Sh00p @ Jan 1 2025 06:37pm)

Texas Military veteran 🛑

Brown Skinned filthy Immigrant terrorist ✔

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 1 2025 05:00pm)

Most intelligent people realize that crude identity politics sucks and isn't the solution. Or that people from a socially-defined tribe hating another tribe can't possibly be "a matter of biological principle". :rolleyes:

Just to name one example: Twenty-five years ago, you didn't have a problem with creeping Islamism in majority-Muslim Indonesia, nowadays, you do. For some reason, the people of the most populous Muslim country in the world weren't born as raging radicals who hate the West just one generation ago; nowadays, this sentiment is constantly gaining ground. How do you square that with a race- or biology-based perspective on the issue?




Fact of the matter is that people are mostly shaped by their upbringing and socialization, by the values, mores and behaviors they grew up in. People who grew up in a shithole country will have a much harder time leaving its shithole culture behind and becoming integrated, productive members of successful societies. Likewise, people whose socialization took place in a social environment dominated by a rigid and belligerent religion will be inherently more prone to religious radicalization.

Those are statistical arguments and don't imply causality or inevitability on an individual level. The correct conclusion is "no more immigration from shithole countries", but this doesn't mean that Muslims or brown people are inherently inferior, nor that all of them hate us and want us dead.

Quote (El1te @ Jan 1 2025 08:27pm)

It isn't "identity politics" it's biophysical reality. Tribe mixing has never worked and never will, you'd have better luck squeezing water from a rock, either tribes stay separate or one tribe is dominated by and assimilates into the other. However assimilation is only possible with an ethnic match (e.g. the various German tribes being dominated by and assimilated into the Prussian tribe, same with English examples)

I've always been opposed to creeping Islam in SE Asia and so have SE Asians

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Jan 1 2025 06:44pm)

How does your theory work in regards to the Roman Empire? Rome didn't care what race you were, they took white, black and arab slaves. They also gave route to citizenship for all of those groups. It worked for a decent amount of time. Septimius Severus and I think a couple other emperors were even punic(semitic). The common story that he was "black" is not true, but he wasn't "white" either.

They made Caracalla and Geta whiter than snow in that new Gladiator movie, which is about as accurate as casting Denzel to play Hannibal the Barcid heh

https://i.imgur.com/MRzCguP.png

Quote (El1te @ Jan 1 2025 09:56pm)

There were no Punic emperors, the Punics were exterminated years prior to the Empire

Slaves didn't have a path to citizenship they were slaves

Roman Empire was governed by the Roman tribe even children know that lol. Plebians were of the Roman tribe. Judea during the time of Jesus was governed by Pilate (Roman). External tribes were allowed a degree of self governance under Imperial rule and to even call themselves Kings (e.g. Herod) because... Rome understood that tribes are kept separate and don't mix. Validating what I said.

Quote (El1te @ 2 Jan 2025 02:27)

It isn't "identity politics" it's biophysical reality. Tribe mixing has never worked and never will, you'd have better luck squeezing water from a rock, either tribes stay separate or one tribe is dominated by and assimilates into the other. However assimilation is only possible with an ethnic match (e.g. the various German tribes being dominated by and assimilated into the Prussian tribe, same with English examples)

I've always been opposed to creeping Islam in SE Asia and so have SE Asians

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 1 2025 07:11pm)

What is this alleged "biophysical" basis for assimilation only ever working with matching ethnicities?
You can't even stay consistent with the justification(s) for your blatant racism, mixing biologistic and culture-based approaches.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Jan 1 2025 07:06pm)

Your historical knowledge is failing you again. Carthage was destroyed, some even say Rome salted the earth although this appears not to be true. In any case, the punics were certainly not exterminated. Find me a source that says otherwise.

Lol and yes, roman slaves actually did have a path to citizenship. It was called manumission. But the point I made is that non-slaves who were white, black or arab had a route to Roman citizenship.

Again, Septimius Severus was Punic, and was even portrayed as dark-skinned in a portrait made during his lifetime, which I just showed you.

Quote (El1te @ Jan 1 2025 10:34pm)

Having a bit of punic blood doesn't make him punic, he was Roman. The punics were exterminated but there's always lingering DNA from mixing. He was Roman and white, with a tan coming from a sunny region.