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So, before the injury eat normal, during the injury eating normal = gluttony? :unsure:


No, I think I understand your point, being fat isn't explicitly *always* an issue of gluttony. If they continue to eat a normal amount after being injured they would be expected to gain weight, but not to the point of obesity. Gluttony is generally understood as overeating your fill, what 'your fill' is could be open to interpretation. But Aquinas also detailed the finer points of gluttony, one of which includes eating fancy overly-presented or garnished food.

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No, I think I understand your point, being fat isn't explicitly *always* an issue of gluttony. If they continue to eat a normal amount after being injured they would be expected to gain weight, but not the the point of obesity. Gluttony is generally understood as overeating your fill, what 'your fill' is could be open to interpretation. But Aquinas also detailed the finer points of gluttony, one of which includes eating fancy overly-presented or garnished food.


What if their mind is dull and they're not capable of determining what their 'fill' is?
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Dec 28 2024 05:17pm
And from where does free will come?


God gave us free will

Are you saying that everything is sanctioned by and acceptable to God because of free will?
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What if their mind is dull and they're not capable of determining what their 'fill' is?


This is a great question. My interpretation would be that ignorance is no excuse for sin: meaning that no, murder is still not okay even if someone is too impaired to understand why. But a Pastor could probably give a better response
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Dec 28 2024 05:21pm
This is a great question. My interpretation would be that ignorance is no excuse for sin: meaning that no, murder is still not okay even if someone is too impaired to understand why. But a Pastor could probably give a better response


You responded fairly and I concede. :)
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Dec 28 2024 05:32pm
You responded fairly and I concede. :)


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Dec 28 2024 05:44pm
God gave us free will

Are you saying that everything is sanctioned by and acceptable to God because of free will?


No, I'm saying your god is trash and this world is his fault
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Dec 28 2024 05:52pm
No, I'm saying your god is trash and this world is his fault


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Dec 28 2024 06:17pm
From human medical and science, obese is a human defined term, referring to weight.
If we take time to read bible(s), Gluttony is not defined as such.

But I'm getting into biblical food law, which most people don't even understand.
And you might say, "you said the word food" Yes but metaphors are not.

Obesity is officially recognized as a sickness. You can be treated. Morbid obesity shortens life span more than smoking, not even talking about the
loss of the quality of life, missed kinky fuck expeiences etc. That's the science part for you.
From biblical point, you get obese by overeating ( gluttony no question asked) and moving too little (sloth). There are people who are obese due to thyroid problems or medications they take but they make something like 5% of obese people at most.
I do, you're right in that the sins of sloth, greed, and gluttony are all related but they are still distinct sins. I suppose video games could be considered gluttony from a consumption perspective, or sloth from an inactivity perspective.

See my edit on thyroid too :)

Greed is translated poorly into English from Latin. Avarice is the correct wording which means hoarding resources for no good reason and withholding access from other people. "Greed" as a sin is not directly related to obesity.

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Obesity is officially recognized as a sickness. You can be treated. Morbid obesity shortens life span more than smoking, not even talking about the
loss of the quality of life, missed kinky fuck expeiences etc. That's the science part for you.
From biblical point, you get obese by overeating ( gluttony no question asked) and moving too little (sloth). There are people who are obese due to thyroid problems or medications they take but they make something like 5% of obese people at most.

Greed is translated poorly into English from Latin. Avarice is the correct wording which means hoarding resources for no good reason and withholding access from other people. "Greed" as a sin is not directly related to obesity.


Oh yes I agree with that. Avarice is the correct term, greed is colloquial as lots of people don't know the word avarice. Hoarding food resources like Craster would be avarice, then indulging in that hoard of food would be gluttony. Distinct sins but are tangentially related, like gluttony and sloth.
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