loomer is dunking on him so hard its unbelievable . idk how but she got a list of people on h1b visas that elon has hired



This post was edited by gnarjay on Dec 27 2024 01:05am

She dunked him so hard that he completely lost his mind and is blatantly censoring, algorithm blacklisting, and removing verification from those who drew his ire. He has no argument other than to call everyone retarded.

The h1b lists are apparently completely public that anyone can look at, people have posted many hilarious ones. Its all bullshit of course, people who could have been hired domestically. And we don't forget that this whole discussion was started by some Indian guy campaigning to remove country limits - the implication being to allow more Indians and he even said he has friends waiting to get in.

The leopards eating faces left wing discourse is true, we're the leopards and we'll absolutely eat their faces if technocrat liberals try to betray us.

Loomer is the handicapped Gretta of the Republican Party. No one with any type of intelligence takes her seriously. It would be best if she just fades into the darkness. Not even Trump wanted anything to do with her.

Trump was definitely schmoozing her up, the rumors around them two are pretty gross

its never been a talent requirement, its a workhours requirement. immigrants are far more likely to work 80-100 hour weeks which is what Elon wants to slim down employees.

while its evil and wrong its not illogical. in any workforce the things that get lost in communication passing tasks from one person to another stack up quickly.

I wonder what the MAGA crowd feels about this though. what is the difference in their eyes between legal immigrants vs illegal immigrants taking their jobs? are they more okay with it if its done legally ? I wouldn't think so

legal immigrants wont be taking "maga jobs" by and large. and the illegal immigrants getting deported or self deporting will free up a lot of "maga jobs".

its going to be an interesting situation, because Trump ran so much on the "higher prices" talking point. i know the narrative that's out there is that trump stated he'd make prices lower, but he's talked for about 200 hours in the last year on campaign so he's said all sorts of shit. people might be led to believe the average maga voter thinks prices on things will go down, even drastically. or that they are 100% ignorant of how inflation and tariffs work. some are, many aren't. many understand we wont see deflation, and in fact dont want deflation. that tariffs will raise prices, etc.

they like any voting group support net gains. if the housing market is better, if international trade is better, if there are no new wars, and if illegal immigration is drastically decreased then they will be happy.

a lot of people will tell them they shouldn't be happy, because they didnt get their whole checklist literally finished. but that's not how presidential support has ever worked. look at biden, the chips acts and build back stronger act were both good legislative wins, but in 10 years no one will even mention them as a foot note. they'll be comparing his inflation and economy numbers to the trump terms that sandwich him and asking if he should have dropped out sooner.

overall tho maga land is really just not sure how to feel about DOGE, they're not freaking out like the democratic establishment, but they're watching it closely. if they even put a freeze on social security they'll revolt tho.

It's a few different things. Immigrants on these type of visas are essentially locked in to an employer, unless another employer is willing go through the heavy costs associated with sponsorship, which under current framework is not that easy. We recently interviewed a few people that would need these sponsorships and it would be something like 3 months before they are actually hired and tens of thousands of dollars, (mostly lawyer hours) to hire someone that needs sponsorship. It's a no go for a lot of places nowadays, we wanted to hire this Chinese girl that was very smart and frankly extremely overqualified but we didn't because of the sponsorship. For critical positions it makes sense for associates or more jr positions (let's call it 100k and under) not so much.

Employers love these type of employees because 1. they tend to stick around at the company that sponsors them (until at least they get a green card, which takes years), they usually don't rock the boat too much, basically put their head down and are just happy to here, are typically ladder climbers and go above and beyond and 4. it's an awesome way to keep wage inflation down.

I'm not sure how to feel about it. For cream of the cream of the crop people, the top 1% of developers, entrepreneurs, engineers, etc. it makes sense. But in reality, what i think these tech/big corporates bros want is to basically have tens of thousands of these qualified people, many from India, basically be brought and put a pretty big damper on wage growth. My department is like 1/4 Indians, if they lower this barrier significantly, that'll easily climb to 1/3 or maybe 1/2 for industries like finance, tech, engineering, etc. It's great for corporate profits, not so much for the middle class.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Dec 27 2024 12:28pm

agreed entirely, and i'd add its potentially terrible for international corporate espionage. sure it may be 1 in 100 foreign nationals that are feeding information back to pakistan, india, china, etc. but on a macro scale that's not a great thing especially in emerging tech areas.

It's a hard act to balance. Undoubtedly you will have Indians/Chinese students who are brilliant and end up in positions where they are exposed to critical high tech. Despite all the sanctions and road blocks we put up to slow down Chinese high end chip know-how, they are still finding a way. It's really difficult to protect IP nowadays when the multinationals corporates are so fluid. What's stopping qualified people to work and learn high tech and then go implement it in China? Nothing lol, and flooding the US with even more of them isn't going to magically result in better IP protection.