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Thanks, all of the above is reasonable.
any view on the assertion in the below, specifically re: breeding ground for the next generation of terrorists ? As previously stated, this mirrors my view (that the actions today are laying the foundation for future conflict).
(note that the title is rubbish, im specifically looking at the assertion that these kids will grow up with a grudge). While Israel has yet to clearly state its intent for Gaza, based on what it is doing in the West Bank, I dont see any Israeli policy that would be capable of mitigating the future problems (which I believe, it is creating, in my opinion).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp_zxfUaWisits a bit lame, and may it comes across as disingenuous, however to be clear, merry christmas and good will to you and all people.
Personally, I think it’s BS. They are hostile and they will remain hostile if I bomb them or not.
You might be unaware of it but you only need to take a look at PA textbooks at schools. You’ll be horrified. You can find mathematic problems such as -
There are 6 Zionists. The Mojahedin kills 2, how many remain ?
I mean.. I have little kids myself.. and people are saying that Israel is dehumanising Palestinians..
And of course you can point out the Israeli extremists but then I’ll ask you - show me the Palestinian moderates. Show me the Palestinian moderate school system that teaches peace with the Zionists and that the Zionists are people. Show me..
I think that after the first and second Intifadas the Israeli public understands what it means to live in a hostile environment.
As The video itself, the man is a lawyer. I don’t expect much. He follows the rules of men the best way he can. However, judges are not Gods.. for example see trumps regime or the rise of right wing parties that wants to make some adjustments at the Supreme Court. So, do all judges being appointed afterwards will be “bad”? If their view doesn’t corresponds to the liberal approach?
There is the court system , and there is the reality. And in reality sometimes you need to lock the damn door because someone wants to do something illegal.. the point is, you can’t run the world by a bunch of judges in the ICJ.
The statistic about kids and all.. it’s nice to say that and of course it’s terrible but you can’t really take it seriously when we know for a fact -
1. Hamas lies about the amount of children and their ages, as in 30 years old are suddenly registered as children.
2. 14 years old are actively participating in fighting. We see it in Gaza, we saw it in Lebanon 1 and 2 , the Americans saw it in Afghanistan and Iraq.. it’s pretty common.
And excuse me but if I’m a soldier being shot at the last thing I’ll do is to ask for an ID. And even if the kid is being used by adults, what exactly do you expect from the military to do ?
What bothers me the most is the way this whole conversation about Israeli-Palestine conflict often involves straw man arguments.
I mean, it’s really OK to say that the West Bank is occupied without saying that there is an “apartheid”
And it’s OK to say that what happens in Gaza is terrible without calling it ethnic cleansing or genocide.
Going into extreme definitions that do not fit just weakens the whole argument and causes the debate to lose its purpose.
This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Dec 26 2024 08:37am