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Dec 22 2024 07:09am
Now that barbs are permitted to use holy freeze in DFC rules will this combo be bis against attack speed based chars? Seems good vs e.g. sin and smiter? Against chars like zon would max block still be preferable and would it be worthwhile to use Doom on switch?
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Dec 22 2024 07:34am
It’s good but it’s also bm

Also you should combine holy freeze with other slow. One type of slow doesn’t slow enemies that much, but combine it with cleglaw arach and they won’t be able to do shit

For example barb whirlwind with doom slow is still pretty fast, but with decrepify and 50% slow ontop you could make him literally unable to hit

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Dec 22 2024 07:48am
Ito the rules slow is capped at 25% and decrep is only allowed on proc.
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Dec 22 2024 03:45pm
Dfc xD
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Dec 23 2024 06:37am
My first hammerdin had a wierd smiter setup:
Bugtal ber
Bug belt (10% slow)
Gleglaws (25% slow)
Grief pb + exile
Blackhorns face (20% slow)
Etc

I smiter down this smiter called Satan.
He accused me of hacking with 20 skills in all skillslots :p
Fact is that my hammer was idioticly skilled with like 5 fana base etc xD
And he used grief ba, so super weak vs this slow. HF + 50% from gear xD

I also remembering when barbs and assas tried to wirl me, they would move so slow that i had all the time in the world to kill them over and over again xD
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Dec 24 2024 02:38am
Quote (gel87 @ 23 Dec 2024 13:37)
My first hammerdin had a wierd smiter setup:
Bugtal ber
Bug belt (10% slow)
Gleglaws (25% slow)
Grief pb + exile
Blackhorns face (20% slow)
Etc

I smiter down this smiter called Satan.
He accused me of hacking with 20 skills in all skillslots :p
Fact is that my hammer was idioticly skilled with like 5 fana base etc xD
And he used grief ba, so super weak vs this slow. HF + 50% from gear xD

I also remembering when barbs and assas tried to wirl me, they would move so slow that i had all the time in the world to kill them over and over again xD


WW ias wasnt affected by slow and hf in LoD times, only travel speed did.

You dueled bad ones cuz every good BvC and Ghost/Hyb was fully str bugged and used long desync whirls vs dins and smiters, they should got invisible hits near every time they stay or tele stomp.

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Dec 24 2024 03:02am
Quote (heron79 @ Dec 24 2024 09:38am)
WW ias wasnt affected by slow and hf in LoD times, only travel speed did.

You dueled bad ones cuz every good BvC and Ghost/Hyb was fully str bugged and used long desync whirls vs dins and smiters, they should got invisible hits near every time they stay or tele stomp.


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Dec 24 2024 10:20am
Quote (heron79 @ Dec 24 2024 09:38am)
WW ias wasnt affected by slow and hf in LoD times, only travel speed did.

You dueled bad ones cuz every good BvC and Ghost/Hyb was fully str bugged and used long desync whirls vs dins and smiters, they should got invisible hits near every time they stay or tele stomp.


Yes, but with this slow the server wont desync them.
Their wirls took forever to finnish and you could reposition with charge meanwhile. Anyway, this was very long time ago, strenght bugging was not common back then. Must have been 1.10 or 1.11 or something.

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Dec 24 2024 10:47am
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Yes, but with this slow the server wont desync them.
Their wirls took forever to finnish and you could reposition with charge meanwhile. Anyway, this was very long time ago, strenght bugging was not common back then. Must have been 1.10 or 1.11 or something.


Sorry, but not true, slow affect their travel speed so their WW ls were desynced and hit even more times per stomp, I tested my HFreezeCleg Smiter vs some BvCs and when I slowed them down with HF they usualy killed me faster xD

Desync was a thing to 1.14 patch lol when they destroyed WW mechanic, in1.13 was commonly used on every decent BvC.
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Dec 24 2024 10:58am
Quote (heron79 @ Dec 24 2024 05:47pm)
Sorry, but not true, slow affect their travel speed so their WW ls were desynced and hit even more times per stomp, I tested my HFreezeCleg Smiter vs some BvCs and when I slowed them down with HF they usualy killed me faster xD

Desync was a thing to 1.14 patch lol when they destroyed WW mechanic, in1.13 was commonly used on every decent BvC.


Yes they kill faster as they get more hits while passing by, but as a smiter with exile you get plenti of hits urself and heal. And their movement speed allows you to hit them enought to kill them several times over as they pass by, and your exile makes it safe. Wonder where i said they hit slow? o_O since they move slow the server easy catch up on their position.

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