No, you are spreading misinformation.
When somebody bombed the nord stream it was inactive for months already. So its not relevant to the case.
Also Sikorski was nobody in 2022, no PM, no FM, just one of thousands of opposition politicians in the country.

Here you have article from 2021, when the Russia were preparing to attack Ukraine and needed Germany to behave nicely:

"natural gas stocks at the storage facilities owned by the Russian natural gas company Gazprom in Austria, Germany, and the Netherlands were at a combined total of 77 Bcf as of September 28, 2021, which is 75% (225 Bcf) below the five-year average on this date."

So they only provided a quarter of usual supplies (-75% per 5 years average).
Source:
https://www.eia.gov/naturalgas/weekly/archivenew_ngwu/2021/09_30/

Nothing works better for getting people "behave correctly" than cutting them out of heat.
Russians are smart people, they know how to motivate people, gotta admit it.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Dec 13 2024 09:03am

You are incorrect and you are twisting the narrative to fit your hidden agenda.

Europe fought tooth and nail for decades to get rid of supply security from Russians. You cannot turn around and blame Russians that they gave you what you wanted. It is not only intellectually dishonest, but reeks of really badly put together propaganda pieces.

Europe OPTED OUT of guaranteed supplies and long-term contracts in favour of spot markets.

This was entirely self inflicted and Gazprom was under no obligation to keep storages above or below five-year averages. It was obliged to ensure uninterrupted supply of contracted volumes - WHICH IT DELIVERED TO THE FULL. The "more competitive market for gas in Europe" means that you do not have supply security. Nothing to do with Russians.

Here is an article by The Economist from 2012 warning this would happen.
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2012/07/12/careful-what-you-wish-for

If you don't want to sign long-term contracts, nobody is under any obligation to deliver on a whim because winter is cold or Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz burnt a bit too much gas because it was soo cheap. You have to pay market rates to attract sellers who might otherwise sell to Korea, Japan, Pakistan or any other willing buyer.

I give you an example. Imagine you want a roof over your house. You can rent day-by-day from a hotel and risk getting kicked out for any reason convenient to the hotel owner,

or

you can ensure a security of the roof over your head by buying it outright or entering into a long-term rental commitment. Hotel owner reserves the right not to rent you the room on your first whim. You cannot blame the hotel owner he kicked you out if he does so and hotel owner is not required to justify why he doesnt want to rent to you again.

What happened now is that Europeans are signing the same 15 year take-or-pay contracts with Americans and Qatari. Make it make sense.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/germany-agrees-15-year-liquid-gas-supply-deal-with-qatar

This post was edited by Malopox on Dec 13 2024 09:43am

You're disingenuous. Yes, the EU shot itself in the foot by getting rid of long-term contracts in favor of the spot market. Nonetheless, Germany in 2021 was willing to pay the much higher spot market prices to get additional Russian gas above the contractually obligated minimum, Russia refused. Why is that? Why does a supplier refuse to ship to a customer who is willing to pay the fair market price at the time, a price which would have been hugely profitable to the supplier?

It's blatantly obvious that Russia was driven by political considerations and intentionally ran down European gas storages throughout 2021, so that we would sit there with very little reserves when Russia pulls the trigger on the invasion of Ukraine in January 2022. They made a big mistake by listening to Xi, who asked them to delay the shitshow until after the Beijing olympics. By only pulling the trigger in late February, we were too close to the end of winter for this plan to pan out, giving us a full summer to scramble and come up with a solution.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 13 2024 12:09pm

Russia has been funding ostensibly environmentalist or climate change related causes for years in order to undermine Europe's energy independence:
https://consumerchoicecenter.org/is-russia-funding-european-environmental-activists/







Also keep in mind that the braindead German plan to simultaneously phase out oil, coal and nuclear power has always hinged on the availability of cheap natural gas, which was supposed to be the key "bridge technology" until renewables are storable in sufficient quantities to get through a couple of dark, windstill days. So first, the Green/Climate Movement undermined our energy supply and inadvertently increased our dependency on Russia, then they turned around and became the biggest hawks once the war broke out, advocating for draconian sanctions and immediately cutting off all trade with Russia.

I don't really believe in conspiracy theories, don't really belive that this was all a premeditated, nefarious plan - but if their goal was to brute force their degrowth agenda down Europe's throat, they couldn't have played it any better.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 13 2024 12:07pm

You are seriously overstating their ability to influence IMO. If Russia, with an economy of Italy can influence Germany to nuke (no pun intended) your energy policy and ruin it for decades what sway do you think the US or a China might have?

I mean at some point we have to stop, no Russia is not behind every event that doesn't go our way. Local leftist idiots and the green global cabal is multiples more at fault for your energy policy.

Can you please point to me out to that drop in Russian supplies in 2021? Gas was being shipped at a constant rate through Nord Stream throughout the whole of 2021. Maximum capacity of Nord Stream 1 was 155mcm.



Germany refused to turn Nord Stream 2 on. You can’t blame Russians for that. It was entirely German actions that did not allow NS2 to start (one line of which is by the way still operational and can be restarted in a few weeks if only Germany wakes up from this disastrous green-left slumber financed by Americans, not Russians as you keep claiming).

See for instance this fine gentlemen that was in the same “leaders program” as Alexey Navalny. Guess which party in Germany he represents? https://worldfellows.yale.edu/person/sergey-lagodinsky/

I’m sorry mate, but you got played like a fiddle by your biggest “ally”.

This post was edited by Malopox on Dec 13 2024 01:54pm

It's not braindead, it's orchestrated decline that has nothing to do with Russia. Talk to a few German leftists and if they like you enough they'll flat out admit it. My parents who are Marxists openly admit to me the goal is the fall of Western civilization and they cite all the alleged bad things White people have done. Their position is that Western/White civilization isn't special, and that it is only supreme because of moral atrocities committed by them and not by merit. They say this out loud. Guns Germs & Steel, a significant Jewish anti-white propaganda piece, makes this clear

The reason you don't believe that is I don't think you've talked to the other side, or if you have, they haven't been sincere with you

The reason they hate Russia is that Russia is seeking to uphold and defend Western civilization

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 13 2024 03:41pm

We learn that it wasn't Russia that paid for that TikTok campaign in Romania. Still, there's now a precedent that when European centrist elites see their power threatened, they will dispense with democracy and the rule of law while shrieking "the Russians are coming".

We also learn that the methods the centrist parties decried as illegitimate and hybrid warfare - paying influencers to promote scripted electoral content - was the very method they deployed and which blew up in their face.

This post was edited by Malopox on Dec 23 2024 02:23am

Ursula von der Leyen recently visited Moldova promising the Moldovans a 1.8 Billion Euros "support package" --> https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ac_24_5228

Quote from article:



So who is interfering in the elections, the Eu is literally buying votes with an Eu support package worth 1.8 B Euros, lol

(Everyone reading this should keep in mind this is a very poor country and 1.8 B Euros is huge for them)