and again, give me some latitude. If I come across as vague, it is only to protect myself.

1. If the issue relates to population density I would refer back to my earliest posts in this thread where I said Israel needs to focus more on making babies then making war. I know this may come across as a bad joke but there is a lot of truth in the statement. Alternatively, I think the Israeli government needs to expand its reading material in order to successfully devise a way to integrate their minorities into society. Would it be fair to say that little has been done in this regard? I am not talking exclusively about Palestinians here.

2. I watched several videos about "free to leave", probably not a good idea to post them. MY view is that a degree of effort is being made by the Israeli government to enable annexation of lands without the baggage.

3. If history is anything to go by (and I go by history) one cannot expect a change in Palestinian society when they have been bombed for years. Intensive campaigns such as the one we are witnessing in gaza leads to extreme figures emerging. The most plausible outcome is Hamas 2.0. In terms of getting over it, in the first instance this would entail Israel defining its borders once and for all, and not extending its borders under any circumstances.

4. Hamas are Palestinians but not all Palestinians are Hamas. I dont disagree with the rest of this but in a climate of oppression and indoctrination, and culture to a degree, the likes of Theodor Herzl are unlikely to come from Gaza or the West Bank.

Why forcing two nations to live together ? The Palestinians don’t want it. They say they do, just for political and PR gain. How many Arab/islamic countries are democracies ? None. No thank you I’ll pass.
About the second part about minorities, i honestly don’t know enough about it to answer. I do think we need to do more for Arab minorities and the Orthodox Jews.


I’m sure there is a public who would like to do that. It works both ways you know. From one hand we are saying that we creates the next Hamas, in the other there are Israeli extremists.. luckily for me, I’m with the stronger side.


What ? Where did you got this conclusion from ?
Japan, Mexico , Jews after WW2… honestly I don’t know of a country which its borders are not forged by war. And to war, there is a winner and a loser. Not a “cease fire” which is a wester interpretation.
That’s why I wrote that the Palestinians need their own Theodor Herzl.


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That’s simply historically not true.
As you said, keep doing the same won’t grant you different result. While I’m perfectly fine with my current situation it seems that they don’t. They need to get over this Palestinianism approach.

The peoples of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem are the Jihadists who made up the foot soldiers of Egypt, Jordan and Syria that LOST the 6 days war. They still teach Jihad in their public schools. They have raised their children and grandchildren as Jihadists. The "national will" of all three areas is to see every single free man, woman, and child in Israel dead.

There was a reason Egypt, Syria, and Jordan didn't take those Jihadists back, and closed their borders to them. You set a mad dog loose on your enemy, you don't invite them into your home. The fact that Israel has NOT eradicated these scum is the very reason they're having so many issues today. Time for them to ignore the so-called "international community" entirely and eradicate their enemies. When the government of Gaza declared total war on them, they accepted total war in return. Every jihadist and their family deserves to die.

There's your solution. Now if Netanyahu is too much of a coward to carry it out? Vote in someone who will.

Edit: Funny that Lebanon failed to close their borders to the mad dog jihadists, and now half of Lebanon is ruled by Hezbollah. The more you know, eh?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Dec 19 2024 10:32am

Why do Israeli Jews fear becoming a minority in their country? Bigotry? Racism? Jew Replacement Theory conspiracies?

Because we know how it ends when we are not in control of our own faith for the past 2 millennia.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Dec 19 2024 01:03pm

Always ends bad

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Dec 19 2024 01:27pm

Okay, then why do Jewish writers say the opposite for America, Canada, and all European White states?

You (Many_Names) said yourself that they support White people becoming a minority because they think it'll decrease racism, so why not the same for Israel? Why not integrate the 5mm+ Arab Palestinian population, it'll help decrease the internal racism that Jews hold

Why shouldn't White Christians be in control of their own faith in their own countries?

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 19 2024 01:36pm

No, what I meant was that as a minority in a large country, they fear for their own safety, which is why they support other minorities. However, that doesn’t mean they want those minorities to become the majority.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Dec 19 2024 01:36pm

They come here willingly, they are not afraid of us. They want our fruit & prosperity which is of course understandable.

Jewish writers (not you) across the (now legacy) media landscape have all been singing the chorus criticizing white people who fear becoming a minority in their own countries. They have called us bigots, Nazis, conspiracy theorists, and racists for holding this view and opposing mass immigration. Has the state of Israel condemned these writers? No. They've funded and supported them though.

They have also criticized our desire for our White Christian states to be explicitly Christian, with special benefits for people of white European ancestry. Israel does this, so why is it bad for us and not them? Should Israel not be funding and supporting the effort for white Christian nations to be de jure white Christian ethnostates, like Israel?

Note that white people are already the minority in many of our White Christian city centres e.g. London.

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 19 2024 01:42pm

It’s not inherently bad, but I think you’re unfairly blaming Jews for the issues in your own country, which is a form of racism in itself.