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Oct 20 2023 12:18pm
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The conflict is multi-faceted, no doubt. All I'm suggesting is that people speaking to the injustices of Israel is not the same as supporting Hamas.


cmon man, I have yet to see ANY anti-hamas organizations by palestinians abroad. calling the issue multi-fauceted is one thing, but, if palestinians were interested in moving forward, they would remove the hamas by force and open up negotiations for a two-state solution and stick to it and be done with this violence. or else, should we just let them bomb each other and deal with the fall out?
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Oct 20 2023 12:24pm
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Israel has blockaded Gaza and has illegally expanded into the West Bank. Palestine is not geographically contiguous, but their struggle is.


We didnt expand in the west bank, and we block Gaza from achieving weapons not anything else.

Whats your solution?
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Oct 20 2023 12:24pm
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cmon man, I have yet to see ANY anti-hamas organizations by palestinians abroad. calling the issue multi-fauceted is one thing, but, if palestinians were interested in moving forward, they would remove the hamas by force and open up negotiations for a two-state solution and stick to it and be done with this violence. or else, should we just let them bomb each other and deal with the fall out?


It is a complicated challenge given that the Palestinian people in Gaza have not had an election since ~2006 and people cannot safely and freely speak out or organize against Hamas. I think it's a geographical nightmare, given that we're trying to negotiate a two-state solution while there's actually 3 main parties/areas.
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#2794
Oct 20 2023 12:27pm
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We didnt expand in the west bank, and we block Gaza from achieving weapons not anything else.

Whats your solution?


Can you explain what you mean by "We didn't expand in the West Bank"?

I don't pretend to know the answer for a wholesale solution; however, that doesn't mean that we can't talk about what positive steps can be taken. Israel needs to take accountability for its own contributions to the conflict, irrespective of how Hamas responds.
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#2795
Oct 20 2023 12:41pm
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We didnt expand in the west bank, and we block Gaza from achieving weapons not anything else.

Whats your solution?


you really think just blatantly lying about everything somehow justifies your position? it's ridiculous how brazen you are about it, do you have no shame whatsoever?
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#2796
Oct 20 2023 12:47pm
Ohh this article is very interesting:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

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The report shows that, while some of Israel’s policies may have been designed to fulfil legitimate security objectives, they have been implemented in a grossly disproportionate and discriminatory way which fails to comply with international law
Other policies have absolutely no reasonable basis in security, and are clearly shaped by the intent to oppress and dominate.

"Butt Hamas animals hate democracy"... ;)
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Oct 20 2023 12:53pm
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Ohh this article is very interesting:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

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The report shows that, while some of Israel’s policies may have been designed to fulfil legitimate security objectives, they have been implemented in a grossly disproportionate and discriminatory way which fails to comply with international law
Other policies have absolutely no reasonable basis in security, and are clearly shaped by the intent to oppress and dominate.

"Butt Hamas animals hate democracy"... ;)


considering the hamas govern palestinians, this has no real bearing unto them. you fail to bring up that the gaza has not had an election for awhile...nice viewpoint you have there.
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Oct 20 2023 01:01pm
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considering the hamas govern palestinians, this has no real bearing unto them. you fail to bring up that the gaza has not had an election for awhile...nice viewpoint you have there.


Of course, as long as you're barking at Hamas, you're safe from discussing anything else, like the article i posted.
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#2799
Oct 20 2023 01:26pm
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Of course, as long as you're barking at Hamas, you're safe from discussing anything else, like the article i posted.


but you are doing the same vs israel. you are categorically ignoring that the hamas are supressing their own and blaming israel lol
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Oct 20 2023 01:38pm
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but you are doing the same vs israel. you are categorically ignoring that the hamas are supressing their own and blaming israel lol


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