30-40 fps on ultra i play a cleri lvl 29 on brutwacht
and a kleri lvl 11 on trübkopf pvp
got a quite good pc i would say

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70-100 fps i7-950, 6gb corsair dominator 1600, superclocked evga gtx 580

this is beyond ultra settings (most sliders max cept ground clutter density cause I don't like the look of it)

Sadly, no, gameplay, the most important department, is far below WoW.

Super linear questing? Check. Class trees that the developers have stated that they have no desire to balance? Check.

This game will not "beat" WoW; it is not good enough. It has better graphics; other than that, the only thing going for it is that it is "new."

I'll keep waiting for a quality MMO, will probably pass this one by.




And how can you say raiding/dungeons are better when only a single-digit number of dungeons have been released, and the only ones that HAVE been showcased have been fairly mindless and easy? Wait a year, then compare the raiding. Currently, it can't even compare to WoW in that aspect.

Moral of the story: wait a year. This game looks good because it is new. However, like Aion and all of the other failed MMOs before it, it may or may not still be shiny a year from now. People said Aion would be the WoW killer. Guess what? Aion is dead. People said Warhammer would be the WoW killer. Guess what? Warhammer fell flat. And both of those games had graphical and gameplay differences that people thought were better than WoW, but the developers didn't put enough effort into those games to actually beat WoW. Rift looks about the same; I see technical improvements over WoW, but as far as content and fun-factor go, I don't see much going for it.

Guess we will all have to see how things go.

This post was edited by gateguy on Feb 18 2011 05:22pm

agreed... although I didn't much care for WoW either

This post was edited by mjm69 on Feb 18 2011 07:26pm

you guys are both shallow minded, i have played wow for near 6 years now, wow is for kids that like it easy and can have there cake and eat it too. aion failed due to poor performance issues during large pvp encounters and the fact that if u were a mage and you had wings you could kill anyone. warhammer's pvp system took to long to achieve the highest rank and once there rr80 you could afk and kill fresh 40s no skill involved.

also relevant to rift and wow on release wow had 1 raid and im not even sure how many dungeons it wasnt that many, and they also didnt offer any heroic encounters. yes i agree with Rift has that new feeling, do i think it will kill wow hell no, you cant make 12 million fan boys quit a game they have suckled breast from for 5 years quit there mmo, but it will get alot of new gamers and alot of old school mmo players may come back from there quitting wow cuz it got to easy and really boring to try a new mmo, bashing a new game before its even released and compare it to a 5 year old game that was worse when it released content and completeness wize your retarded and gtfo your just a fan boy.

btw PAUL GIVE ME A FKN SUBFORUM FOR RIFT ALREADY!

This post was edited by Hatewish on Feb 19 2011 10:43am

I am not shallow minded. I barely even like WoW anymore; it's boring. Think of this as a review by a critic, not by a fan. When I see a photocopy of WoW, all I do is groan, especially when that photocopy does not even try to improve on any of the pre-existing systems. The rifts themselves are the only things that make this new MMO even somewhat interesting; without them, Rift wouldn't even be a competitive factor in today's market.

And I am comparing it to WoW because Blizzard puts a LOT of thought and effort into their original releases. Rift looks like effort was indeed put into it, but not enough effort to compare to other existing MMOs. The difference between WoW and Rift? When WoW came out, Blizzard put the effort into making it FAR superior to pre-existing MMOs. They were trying to make a balanced game, but one that had fun, new elements; ones that were different from pre-existing MMOs, like Everquest. Of course, they were not completely successful in the balanced, fun game they envisioned, but they tried. Rift, on the other hand, makes no attempts to outdo WoW, and does not even try to add anything new to the system. It is literally a photocopy of WoW with a new rift system. And I can already tell the game will fail from the mouths of its developers.

"We do not want to try to balance the class trees." When I saw that, I lost almost all interest in this game entirely. No balance? What the hell is the point in playing then? It will end up just like Warhammer and Aion did: 2-3 specs that can outdo all of the other ones. In this case, "customization" will destroy the game itself. This is what happens when developers create a system that is too complex for them to manage; at least Blizzard is smart in that regard, if in nothing else.

As I said, I am not a fanboy. I am simply waiting for a GOOD MMO to be created; Rift is not that MMO.

When I hear from beta testers that a game feels the EXACT same as WoW, I do not jump for joy. I just shake my head and move on.

This post was edited by gateguy on Feb 19 2011 01:12pm

your still stating fan boy like comments that wow came out and was new and far superior to pre existing mmo's, it was not period. the only thing wow did over other pre existing mmo's was add high end graphic's for its time and have the name blizzard attacted to it, with how big the sc and diablo2 communitees were it was pain fully obvious that all the already blizzard fan boys would play it as well. ill give it to blizzard they market there game alot better then any other mmo pre existing. i was on beta last nite running around on my 24 assassin alt all the sudden zone wide event pops up and quicksilver college is over ran with lvl 20 elites with 150k hp each like 10 of them along with 100's of smaller elite mobs. no mmo has done anything like this at all, to base a zones questing upon population is very very new and very exciting, not only do the zone wide events bring pubs together to defend land but also bring world pvp to the table because factions are fighting over a prize which ownz. as far as balance goes no idea wtf ur talking about, there have been buffs and nerfs to all the classes, and if you think wow is balanced in any way ur completely wrong look at mlg and arena high rated teams or even raids, all high teams are of same comp or very similar and some raids they do not take certain specs per encounter, how is that balanced? game is 5 years old and yet they still fail to make any class even to the next.

we can debate all day i got more end rant. edit- in no way is rift any think like wow except that it is a MMO.

Stopped reading after this... Rift fails, nn comments by Rift fanboys...

obv wow fan boy is obv