i quit wow for rift aswell, true.
but what u do expect? i tried it for month and its now even more boring that wow ever was the last 6 years.
it was fun in the beginning, because the talent system is awesome and it was a totally new game.

now, after lvl 50 its boring as hell, stupid bg farming or boring dungeons.
saying the dungeons in wow are no fun is stupid, because the boss mechanics in 5 man dungeon at wow are like the mechanics in rift raids.

when warhammer came out, the wow numbers dropped also, few month later they increased because everybody realised, that wow was far better.
i dont think that it will happen exactly like this, but rift players size will decrease in future.

the fact is just, that the endgame is just boring as hell and i doubt that the game will develop like wow did.



whats ur point now?
that a mmorpg published at 2011 is more polished than any mmo from launch for example wow in 2004.

This post was edited by AemKei on Apr 19 2011 06:02am

What you aren't seeing is that WoW's endgame content is something 18 people can do in gear that is tiers 2 lower than the content they are in. Rift on the other hand has to have the amount of just below the raid you have to run. Yes, rift experts aren't the hardest things in the world when you have massive gear, but honestly, rifts experts are still harder then the 25 man raids that WoW comes out with.

With rift their aren't a massive amount of free epics. Also, since there is a lot of different specs that are out right now for all classes, it shows skill to do well. In rift, you need 20 good players in order to do end-game content. Honestly, if you aren't looking to do experts, and then get on and raid, you aren't looking to play an MMO. That doesn't mean the game is bad, that just means that you don't like MMO's. They are looking into updating their game so that everyone can have fun at all times. It's not a casual game just like WoW is.

The bottom line about Rift compared to wow is the company. Blizzard has done nothing but water down their game to the point where no one wants to play it at all. Trion has been working their hardest in order to make sure their game is balanced and their content is good. The best part of Trion that I have seen is they know what in their game needs to be changed. At this point they realize what needs nerfs, what needs buffs, and what needs to be tweaked.

saying wow is for casuals is stupid.
there are heroic modes for the hardcore players.
most of the casual guilds didnt even touch heroic mode after 5month of cata and hardcore guilds didnt clean it either.
lichking was kinda casual, i dont deny. but still, how much of the guilds were able to do yogg saron or lichking without the buff? nearly none. casuals werent even able to do heroic with the buff lol
tbc, sunwell..., even top guilds didnt clean it.
classic, naxxramas... well i dont need to say anything here.

i bet, wow heroic is still way harder than greenscale.

then as i said before, the talent system is awesome in rift, but u dont need more skill to do well.
u can just be more individual.

i think, rift is after wow the best mmorpg right now and i really enjoyed the way from 1-50 with my mage.
playing as warlock, firemage, something totally new (chloromancer, healing why dealing dmg, awesome)

but the endcontent isnt as complex as the one in wow and i highly doubt, that rift ll develop like wow did.
but we'll see

Ah, that makes sense, you played a mage :-P.

My main is also a mage. Have you played since the 1.1 updates? They buffed every single spell mages have. GSB is the first instance out. It's just like WoTLK Naxx. In comparison, naxx looks like something a tier 2 expert would be. Heroic modes of instances were hard yes, and the last boss in an expansion was hard, yes. But that's something trion is looking into as we speak. They are looking into adding hard modes to fights for more of a challenge to the better players. There is only two raids out of the same difficulty. We will see what happens when they bring out their next tier of instances of how hard the game really is. Will guilds be able to go into the new content and down it in one day or will it take a long time to make sure that the content is fully down? That's where the whole "Hard" aspect of an MMO comes from.

As for difficulty, Rift is harder then WoW.

if you don't like rift, gb2 sucking blizzard's dick and imagining wow is the god of all mmos since the dawn of the genre
also
+1

This can't wait

Man, I wish I could unlearn everything about mmos and start everything all over again...
I honestly liked Rift until I ran out of new things to discover/try out. Sadly it didn't take very long simply because all mmos are pretty much the same with minor changes.

I miss being a noob.

right now we got cata, so naxxramas doesnt matter, even the normal modes for the first t content in cata now are kinda hard for casuals.
the heroics are insane.

and yes, i did.
i still play, but only like 2 times a week, pyro is kinda faceroll.
i play as necro/warlock, its more fun even tho its not that good

weird, if u know the mechanic of heroics nothing is hard anymore