Nothing will outdo an 18 point Justicar/Rest into Shaman for leveling.

Nothing.


And like I said, You clearly stated MULTIPLE times that this is the best spec for PvP. And that, I can assure you, it is definatly NOT.

If youd like, either make a char on rasmolov or log in and see me duel the 50's in the area and i can show you, your using the basic setup everyone uses for pvp, knowing full well that this game offers versatility. Try to get near me with 1 charge with a medium cool down while i slow u and attack u from far, keeping u at a distance , with stuns as well dots and confusion based spells while lowering ur resistances etc.

no where near as good as some builds.

Wont have the heals to survive most pvp fights,
And doesnt have the dmg to aoe mobs fast enough.

This post was edited by Yikem on Mar 29 2011 03:48pm

Thats hilarious bro, an inquisitor cant aoe mobs fast enough lol. Bro <Fantasm> <Soul-Drain Instant Crits 4 targets dmg + 4 times per target> <Circle of oblivion , game over for any mob u decide to pull. Like i said anyone can log into my server and see how this plays out. Not many people know much about clerics, And the same people probably think your rogue needs to be Sab to win pvp. Or the people who feel rogues cant tank as good as warriors. Get off the basic and read the skills and how they compliment each other, then learn how to use them. And with mien of honor 50% healing bonus from doctrine heals and the shamans 10% pluss healing effectiveness and other spells that give higher crit dmg and crit heals u think this class wont heal properly? Justicar at level 12 when used properly has one of the best heals in game if u know what your doing.

You're right, I probably have no idea how to even play a Cleric, or a Rogue. And you're correct (that's the first thing that's been right in this thread) Sabo's definatly have no where near the upfront burst threat of a Marksman. However, neither of those specs are the best for group PvP (which is what matters). If your little spec is as good as you say it is for *dueling* than so be it, but that to me means jack shit. This game isn't about dueling.

Dude fuck group pvping, real pvp comes from going to the town, finding a level 50 guardian and fukin him up on his turf. I play this game mainly for pve and farming. u should honestly try the build out and ull see how effective it is, because u have soo many options. I kill shamans alllllllllllllllllll the time even when their using their rage of the north c/d and ive also pve'd faster and more efficient then all of them.

This post was edited by Jayden202 on Mar 29 2011 09:02pm

when it comes to pvp as a cleric... i heal, because no one else seems to.
for pve sham/drui is way faster like i said before. with ur spec i go oom, and die much faster.. on drui/sham i can take a hit and have bubble/instant cast heal if needed. which i almost never do, and still kill much faster without going oom

My rogue with fell blades would laugh at your cleric while ramming his lvl 50 epic daggers up his ass. I've yet to meet a cleric I couldn't rape mainly cause you bastards can't heal yourself =D 4second stun/5 second silence every 10 seconds/50% reduced healing throughout the duel. Only class that kills me are warriors, which is how its suppose to be.

Assassins can destroy Warriors, but than lose to healing clerics.

Theres no one build in the game, that will beat any class combination (which is also what the OP is stating which made me laugh as well). Listen kid, you stick to dueling the clickers in town and leave the PvP discussions and soul combinations to the people that actually know how to PvP.

/e I should rephrase. 51/15 Sin/NB will destroy warriors. Serpent Strike hits harder (in PvP) than Final Blow.

This post was edited by Messiah69 on Mar 30 2011 01:36pm