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Apr 4 2016 06:47pm
Your work is more an art than a science. It's more social work than medical work. You lack understanding of atoms, and neurons, but because you got some fancy degree, you think you can talk about other people's minds. The are are two reasons why the mental health profession has expanded, allowing just about anybody to get a job in the field. First, society still believes people can be possessed, cursed, crazy and mentally ill. This illusion increases demand for monitoring, treatment, and punishment. Second, private businesses, fueled by social demand, have made a lot of money through pharmaceuticals and supposed treatments. These businesses propagate the illusion of mental illness and continue to expand.
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Apr 4 2016 07:16pm
Quote (xxx_aria @ Apr 4 2016 07:47pm)
Your work is more an art than a science. It's more social work than medical work. You lack understanding of atoms, and neurons, but because you got some fancy degree, you think you can talk about other people's minds. The are are two reasons why the mental health profession has expanded, allowing just about anybody to get a job in the field. First, society still believes people can be possessed, cursed, crazy and mentally ill. This illusion increases demand for monitoring, treatment, and punishment. Second, private businesses, fueled by social demand, have made a lot of money through pharmaceuticals and supposed treatments. These businesses propagate the illusion of mental illness and continue to expand.


Prepare yourself for the rocks and stones.

Inb4 some mental retard feels the need to protect his fragile ego and shield himself by throwing rocks and stones - aka Caveman Complex.
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Apr 4 2016 09:51pm
Quote (xxx_aria @ Apr 4 2016 08:47pm)
Your work is more an art than a science. It's more social work than medical work. You lack understanding of atoms, and neurons, but because you got some fancy degree, you think you can talk about other people's minds. The are are two reasons why the mental health profession has expanded, allowing just about anybody to get a job in the field. First, society still believes people can be possessed, cursed, crazy and mentally ill. This illusion increases demand for monitoring, treatment, and punishment. Second, private businesses, fueled by social demand, have made a lot of money through pharmaceuticals and supposed treatments. These businesses propagate the illusion of mental illness and continue to expand.


you are largely correct, but the model we are using is sort of necessary in order for the field to move forward

treat it like a science, record results, learn more, correct our mistakes (mistakes is basically all the field is right now) and maybe things will move out of the dark ages in 100 years or so

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Prepare yourself for the rocks and stones.

Inb4 some mental retard feels the need to protect his fragile ego and shield himself by throwing rocks and stones - aka Caveman Complex.

the only people who would be offended by his post are phd's that think they are really experts. not gonna find many of those wasting their time arguing on on jsp lol

This post was edited by kayeto on Apr 4 2016 09:52pm
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you are largely correct, but the model we are using is sort of necessary in order for the field to move forward

treat it like a science, record results, learn more, correct our mistakes (mistakes is basically all the field is right now) and maybe things will move out of the dark ages in 100 years or so


Yes for sure the right to experiment on people who are mentally ill or worse actually possessed... seems fair.
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Yes for sure the right to experiment on people who are mentally ill or worse actually possessed... seems fair.


you'd rather we continue without improving?

conditions are better than they were 50 years ago. if we continue, things will get even better after more breakthroughs
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you'd rather we continue without improving?

conditions are better than they were 50 years ago. if we continue, things will get even better after more breakthroughs


I'd rather you didn't continue at all.

The only reason your job field is even growing is eugenics. If people can't explain something they call it crazy or the person must be mentally ill.
Of course I believe that there is mental illness I have a sister who is autistic. But really experimenting on people and ur justifying by saying you
are going to get better? The only better you have ever gotten is not tazing people into sanity oh and not shoveling out their brains as I'm sure
that helped too. Both were experiments both were wrong if you want to improve and realize you are not doing it right let people submit themselves
to such experimentation. Don't have your admittedly wrong decisions and not working practices on the worldwide community.
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Quote (kayeto @ Apr 4 2016 07:51pm)
you are largely correct, but the model we are using is sort of necessary in order for the field to move forward

treat it like a science, record results, learn more, correct our mistakes (mistakes is basically all the field is right now) and maybe things will move out of the dark ages in 100 years or so


the only people who would be offended by his post are phd's that think they are really experts. not gonna find many of those on jsp lol


This is not how science progresses. Admission of ignorance is necessary to science. If the mental health profession stuck with scientific research, it would be whittled down to a handful of behavioral patterns (much of which has been known for ages) and hundreds of medications with unclear molecular mechanisms and obscure physiological responses. The growth of the mental health profession is socially, economically, and politically fueled, not scientifically. I think we agree that there is a correct way to go about this, and we may reach it in the future. I'm claiming the profession has strayed off the righteous path and is in the hands of businesses, rather than the medical profession.
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Apr 4 2016 10:10pm
Quote (GamingOn @ Apr 4 2016 08:02pm)
I'd rather you didn't continue at all.

The only reason your job field is even growing is eugenics. If people can't explain something they call it crazy or the person must be mentally ill.
Of course I believe that there is mental illness I have a sister who is autistic. But really experimenting on people and ur justifying by saying you
are going to get better? The only better you have ever gotten is not tazing people into sanity oh and not shoveling out their brains as I'm sure
that helped too. Both were experiments both were wrong if you want to improve and realize you are not doing it right let people submit themselves
to such experimentation. Don't have your admittedly wrong decisions and not working practices on the worldwide community.


Why call it mental illness? Why call it an illness at all?
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Quote (GamingOn @ Apr 5 2016 12:02am)
I'd rather you didn't continue at all.

The only reason your job field is even growing is eugenics. If people can't explain something they call it crazy or the person must be mentally ill.
Of course I believe that there is mental illness I have a sister who is autistic. But really experimenting on people and ur justifying by saying you
are going to get better? The only better you have ever gotten is not tazing people into sanity oh and not shoveling out their brains as I'm sure
that helped too. Both were experiments both were wrong if you want to improve and realize you are not doing it right let people submit themselves
to such experimentation. Don't have your admittedly wrong decisions and not working practices on the worldwide community.


First of all, I'm not sure who your term of "you" is directed at. When I said "we" I was using that term to refer to all of humanity. We don't know what we are doing when it comes to mental illness.

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This is not how science progresses. Admission of ignorance is necessary to science. If the mental health profession stuck with scientific research, it would be whittled down to a handful of behavioral patterns (much of which has been known for ages) and hundreds of medications with unclear molecular mechanisms and obscure physiological responses. The growth of the mental health profession is socially, economically, and politically fueled, not scientifically. I think we agree that there is a correct way to go about this, and we may reach it in the future. I'm claiming the profession has strayed off the righteous path and is in the hands of businesses, rather than the medical profession.


I'm sure you've encountered people in the system who won't admit ignorance. But my posts here certainly admit that the current 'treatment' is nothing but ignorance.

This post was edited by kayeto on Apr 4 2016 10:55pm
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This thread is garbage.
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