Quote (kalelvszod @ May 2 2015 03:52pm)

right now we are limited to our exploration of space and right now nasa/U.S government is privatizing the space industry.They are doing this by issuing out huge contracts to which ever commercial business can develop the best new method of space travel. Right now they are building more durable space crafts with faster engines. However what if that is not the solution. Anyone reading this should know of Time relativity, meaning faster you get to achieving the speed of light time slows down for you or if your near a huge gravitational force depending on gravity consequences are same or worse. from my understanding of wormholes that is a better way of travelling due to the fact that we wont be experiencing time dialation. Anyone who goes on a mission travelling at speed of light or faster will return to earth as an alien almost due to the fact that hundreds of years would of passed. now my question is should we be dumping more money into the funding of creating wormholes or a faster space engine?

Quote (kalelvszod @ May 2 2015 04:52pm)

Anyone who goes on a mission travelling at speed of light or faster will return to earth as an alien

Quote (kalelvszod @ May 2 2015 04:52pm)

now my question is should we be dumping more money into the funding of creating wormholes or a faster space engine?

Quote (Voyaging @ May 3 2015 04:11am)

mfw



optimally neither... space travel would be a huge waste of money right now

Quote (Belarathon @ May 3 2015 03:19am)

So much is wrong :(

Quote (kalelvszod @ May 3 2015 06:34am)

its something we been trying to achieve for a long time now. we kinda trashed this planet and it wouldnt help to have a back up plan incase this planet ever does become uninhabitable. i would say in the next 50-100 years we will see big changes in this field i do not think that future is as distant as we think. remember in 1950 going to space was sci fi now 65 years later we are planning a mission to mars, sci fi is becoming reality in sense so imagine where we will be in another 65 years..if we dont blow ourselves up first.



i was a lil buzzed last night when i wrote it so i apologize if its all over the place lol. im not sure what you mean by wrong? time dialation is experienced when near intense gravity. interstellar travel at the speed of light if not greater would slow time down for us but remain the same for people on earth. now to me thats not the best option . theories of folding space and going from one point to another in an instant seems better. im sure if we had unlimited sustainable power we would be experimenting with that now, we just cant generate the power required.

Quote (Belarathon @ May 3 2015 10:58am)

First I'll say that if we had unlimited sustainable power, there would be no need to go anywhere at all :) (btw this is not possible - look up the second law of thermodynamics)

Second, one can not travel "at the speed of light or faster". It's not a matter of just figuring out how to do it with new technologies... It is a fundamental rule written into the fabric of the cosmos - it can not be done (at least not by anything with any amount of mass). Now travelling close to C (if it were possible for humans - that we don't know, and we certainly aren't close), could potentially be a legitimate form of interstellar space travel. I'm sure anyone going out on a space mission near the speed of light would be going on a one-way, colonization mission... no need to worry about returning to earth as an ancient relic.

Third, we are not going to create our own wormholes (let alone create them and keep them open for travel). There is not enough energy on earth, and it is not possible to create a device that provides unlimited energy/outputs more energy than it takes in (again it's not a matter of needing new technology - this is entropy, the second law of thermodynamics; one law that physicists believe will never be broken). In any case, it wouldn't be possible to predict where you would come out on the other end, or even if going back in the other end would bring you back to the same original spot.

Lastly, please stop spelling time dilation "time dialation"... it hurts the eyes.

Hope that clears up my last brief post.

Quote (kalelvszod @ May 3 2015 01:33pm)

im aware of that theory "As an object approaches the speed of light, its mass rises precipitously. If an object tries to travel 186,000 miles per second, its mass becomes infinite, and so does the energy required to move it. For this reason, no normal object can travel as fast or faster than the speed of light." if what your saying is true then we will never be able to colonize new planets or reach new systems because its technically impossible. i always thought folding space our creating wormholes would be our next bet. im sure there is some way around the laws of physics that we just havent discovered yet. be pretty shitty if we have this drive for exploration in our blood but limited to just 1 solar system. looks like i spelled DIALTION correct in my previous post sorry if i mispelled it before lol. i agree for most part that space travel would be one way but thats why im having this discussion. what if there are alternatives we just havent realized or considered yet. you go back to the early 1900's and tell people about what the world would be like today, they would laugh and say your dreaming.whenever there is a will there is a way otherwise we wouldnt of advanced this far.