Now I guess i'm making this thread at the risk of sounding like a quaacko. I'm not gonna tell anyone what to believe and that I know what the facts are. First i'll start off by saying I think horoscopes are defiantly bull and this thread has nothing to do with psychic powers or knowing the future, palm reading crystal ball bullshit which is commonly associated with zodiac signs.. And there is a ridiculous amount of you tube ramblings on the internet of people just blathering about this stuff I really feel they just get lost into this when its just more simple.


I just wanted to talk about the differences and similar attributes of people who are of different zodiac signs and or are the same. I don't really swear by this I make sure I keep a balance. But I just can't help but notice that some of the qualities said to be of zodiac signs to be true. I mean i'm what they call a capricorn and all the girlfriends and good relationships Ive had were of the suggested zodiac signs I never sought out a taurus or virgo women it seriously would just happen. ive also not as attracted to women who are lessor compatible signs. Also alot of the qualities said to be about capricorns seem to really be in line with how I am. The determination, stoic uniformity. You know when the moons magnetic field helps control our tides. is it really that wild to consider that when we are born we are effected by the differences in cycles of the universe at the time of our birth?

Ive also started to notice mannerism of some people where I'd see the patterns and the way they do things and say to myself they must be a so and so sign. later to find out a lot of times I am right which is weird.

I'm a pretty skeptical person to begin with and a lot of you know I enjoy getting to the button of things. Is it all coincidence? Is it possible that there might be some validity to them?

This post was edited by Historic on Jan 19 2015 03:12am

there are some developmental issues attributed to your part of the year you are born. for example if your birthday is in the winter in a northern area you don't get to have outside fun bday parties like your summer friends which can make you a jealous person due to this disappointment.

ask any psychologist and they'll tell you that this is simply part of becoming socially aware. much like the placebo effect you'll start attributing generalized statements to occasions that are so rare you couldn't possibly begin to judge it properly.

i for one don't even know which signs are for which parts of the year therefore i'll never have that nagging feeling about a bad zodiac match that can cause serious problems just because you are giving an irrational concept and irrational response which is usually ends in what we call "being a dick".

and if we all had a nickel for every time an angry girl said it was because we were being a dick we'd be rich as hell

I am defiantly aware of this and I think that's why people buy into horoscopes. Alot of times I think that applies to what I think but I can't help but sometimes feel that it does go deeper then that. The zodiac signs have clear differences, differences that yes as you have said can be generalized but when I start to see that people who tend to have less of these "differences" attributed to some other sign. its kinda of interesting. I'ts hard for me to make this thread and I'm sure i'll be mocked. But through my observation and interactions with people I don't know why a lot of the characteristic stated seem to line up. I will admit it might be my interaction or even lack of interaction thats making me feel this way. Obviously i'm not gonna into every interaction that made me feel that zodiac attributes had some validity here.

This post was edited by Historic on Jan 19 2015 03:38am

Sounds like confirmation bias to me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

But there may be subtle personality differences based on what part of the year you were born.

I'm not selectively bringing up memories that support my claim neither here or personally tho. This would mean I would not be able to distinguish how I am interpreting my own observation either that or I am lying.. What i am saying is I have noticed that there's a pattern here. That certain ppl of this type have the said attribute and the others don't. Ive actually been testing this stuff. comparing personality and finding out date of births I mean this means nothing to you because you dont have to believe me. I'm not saying its a definitive thing there is variations but the basis remains the same.

When I research it they only attack the horoscope part of astrology which I fully agree wth. I mean you type in so so sign horoscope and 50000 different narratives come up for the same sign how could this ofc this obvious but i wanted to show my position. this is where people may be writing it off as a generalization.

Law and order

Senior police officers in Brighton, UK announced in June 2007 that they were planning to deploy more officers over the summer to counter trouble they believe is linked to the lunar cycle.[27] This followed research by the Sussex Police force that concluded there was a rise in violent crime when the moon was full. A spokeswoman for the police force said "research carried out by us has shown a correlation between violent incidents and full moons". A police officer responsible for the research told the BBC that "From my experience of 19 years of being a police officer, undoubtedly on full moons we do seem to get people with sort of strange behavior - more fractious, argumentative."[28]

Police in Ohio and Kentucky have blamed temporary rises in crime on the full moon.[29][30][31] In January 2008, New Zealand's Justice Minister Annette King suggested that a spate of stabbings in the country could have been caused by the lunar cycle.[32]

A reported correlation between moon phase and the number of homicides in Dade County was found, through later analysis, not to be supported by the data and to have been the result of inappropriate and misleading statistical procedures.[3]

I also spoke to a 30 year veteran cop who went on to say there is more trouble on full moons I was kinda shocked to be honest.

This post was edited by Historic on Jan 19 2015 05:01am

If you can get a large enough sample size (~1,000 of each sign) to correlate with personality traits I'd be quite intrigued.

One also has to wonder, maybe the prevalence of astrology in society is the reason there may be some correlation between astrological signs and personality. Perhaps some people grow up knowing and reading about their sign and then "create" the personality traits that go along with it as a sort of placebo effect.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Jan 19 2015 06:28am

...when 7 billion people share only 12 signs there are bound to be some similarities .

Ive been laughed at for bringing it up before but there are studies out that relate traits to astrological concepts to a level that cant be attributed to chance, although the mechanisms are not understood.

In the oldest astrological text there is, the brihat parasara hora sastra, theres a good deal on the subject. There are 9 astral planets to consider and the sun is said the represent one's inspiration and goals in life.

In terms of the zodiac there are additional divisions besides the 12 most are familiar with. Parasara divides each zodiac sign into different harmonic divisions, that represent different things. There are 16 divisions 1,2,3,4,7,9,10,12,16,20,24,27,30,40,45,60. That make for a total of about 150 different permutations in each sign of the 360 degree zodiac. Multiply that by 9 planets and the astronomy of the local space and you get trillions of permutations.

The first division which newspaper sun signs (shoddily) deal with is indicative the the deha, which translates to the vehicle that carries you through life. It is how you choose to maneuver throgh life but does not tell: succes and failure in different areas of life, whether you are distracted or halted in area by trivial things, or whether you do good or terrible things. Sun sign would probably be a bad place to start since its manifestations are qualitative, you'd need other influences to get quantitative results, money or crime perhaps.

Either way, to get any statistically replicable truth youd need to go deeper than 'sun sign'.

I suspect that the moon's position and the time of birth are more important for traits since they change every two hours in the first harmonic division.