Is the principle of falsification itself falsifiable?


Let that sink in.

No it's not, part of why falsification isn't all too favored.

17.75 fg if you can tell me why

meta, but he principles of falsification state that nothing is truly falsifiable, "stuff" can only be provisionally accepted

e: so no we cannot truely say it is falsifiable, although we can say it has "passed the test of time", and thus passed the rigors posed. (no idea what other guy is talking about)

ee: also nn fg

This post was edited by dude_927 on Dec 9 2014 06:19pm

What lol? There's loads of shit that's falsifiable. The claim that "there are no black swans" is falsifiable, and falsified if you find a black swan.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Dec 9 2014 06:22pm

but could you be sure you even know what black is? or a swan? you can't be sure you aren't a brain in a jar being prodded with electrical signals.

This post was edited by dude_927 on Dec 9 2014 06:51pm

Well if we're gonna go into the realm of spooky radical solipsism then of course nothing can be known except that one's mind exists (a la Descartes), but I don't think that's really useful to even consider

of course it's useful, it's the whole reason we use the principles of falsification

i cannot falsify the "brain in the jar theory" therefore it is not important to consider (get it?)

This post was edited by dude_927 on Dec 9 2014 06:57pm

Yes I agree, I meant to say that it's not useful to consider, when falsifying the existence of black swans, whether or not we are a brain in a vat. Seeing a black swan is enough for me.

why? because the black swan is falsifiable, the brain in a jar is not, the whole point i am trying to make is if you reject what is not falsifiable and accept what is falsifiable but has not been falsified after rigorous attempts, you will be less likely to be coerced into accepting crazy things like brains in jars and, string theory. that is the whole point of falsification. And the reason the principles of falsification do not falsify themselves is because they are falsifiable, if they didn't work we wouldn't use them (And i assure you we use them)

This post was edited by dude_927 on Dec 9 2014 07:14pm