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Nov 6 2014 06:54pm
I'm sorry if this has been made before. But i would like to discuss the pros and cons of marijuana use if there are even any pros. I know the web is completely filled with articles and quasi science articles that support both sides of the argument. my intention is to hear and discuss first hand accounts. with people you have dealt with or maybe your own experiences. I made this thread after coming to the realization that my friends who smoke all the time every time we hang out are incredibly annoying. People just seem to be really clumsy uninformed and into "conspiracy theories" this is just my account.

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Nov 6 2014 06:59pm
Are you wanting to argue it's use as a recreational drug or it's use in it's totality?

because obviously if you are wanting to argue it's use as a recreational drug it's going to ultimately be "because i want to" vs "it doesn't matter if you want to because my vote is more important all the sudden".

now if you want to argue the use of marijuana plants as medical research items, industrial uses, environmental factors, source of taxes and new jobs to support medical growth etc etc

then yes obviously marijuana has been shown to be a pretty damn useful plant.
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Nov 6 2014 07:42pm
Pros:
Temporary relaxation

Cons:
Less motivation
Damage to lungs
Detriment to memory
Detriment to career if you ever need to take a drug test


Stoners think weed is more special than it is.... it's just a drug that makes you feel better.

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Nov 6 2014 07:51pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 6 2014 09:42pm)
Pros:
Temporary relaxation

Cons:
Less motivation
Damage to lungs
Detriment to memory
Detriment to career if you ever need to take a drug test


Stoners think weed is more special than it is.... it's just a drug that makes you feel better.


most of the time they are looking for the heavy drugs. You know how many ppl would be unemployed if they gave a shit bout marijuana prolly 70% of north americas population maybe more lol
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Quote (IceMage @ Nov 6 2014 08:42pm)
Pros:
Temporary relaxation
Opens your mind
Social lubricant
Healthier than alcohol (and way more fun IMO)


Cons:
Less motivation Not true in all cases, of course if someone lazy smokes marijuana it's not gonna help them at all
Damage to lungs There have been studies saying the opposite
Detriment to memory Damage to memory is not permanent
Detriment to career if you ever need to take a drug test Idk where I live nobody drug tests


http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/10/study-smoking-marijuana-not-linked-with-lung-damage/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/?tool=pubmed
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/large-study-finds-no-link/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1488780

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Nov 6 2014 09:37pm
In actuality doesn't it cause the same neurons to keep firing longer causing them to become overloaded? I'm trying to argue its use in totality. It is to my knowledge and experience that most medical professionals especially in the psychiatry field are pretty against it.

I think its ok in moderation but quickly becomes a weight for the user I mean just from first experience of dealing with people who smoke a shit ton.

It is to hard to tell someone could llink 15 articles against it while someone could link 15 sites that are for it.

Every heavy pot smoker ive ever know. I am being serious right now. they seem to always be into conspiracy theories. Like earlier two of my friends got high and I was like so repubs got in and hes like that's good I was like oh g. Most of them dont even know if fox news is good news to watch.

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Nov 6 2014 10:11pm
I think marijuana has insane amounts of medical potential for people suffering from various ailments, nausea in particular. It must be legalized for medical use and the fact it isn't in most places is a moral travesty.

I think advocates of recreational use of marijuana generally radically exaggerate its benefits and underestimate its harms. As I linked above, there is ample evidence of significant long-term psychological harms from marijuana use, and it may even be irreversible. Potheads won't believe it, of course, because they just take the opposite fundamentalism. Where the DARE groups claim smoking pot once will make you a lifelong addict, the pot advocates will claim pot is completely harmless.

A very small minority of people might have more fulfilling lives using marijuana regularly, but for the vast majority of people it will be harmful. The leniency with which such a powerful drug is treated in modern culture is a very serious issue. People are too keen on taking care of their bodies, but ignore taking care of their minds. Marijuana, in general, is not good for the mind, and should be avoided.

That's not to say it's completely without psychological benefit. But I think the risks outweigh the benefits, except in those people who respond exceptionally well to it.
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Nov 6 2014 10:14pm
Quote (Historic @ Nov 6 2014 07:54pm)
I'm sorry if this has been made before. But i would like to discuss the pros and cons of marijuana use if there are even any pros. I know the web is completely filled with articles and quasi science articles that support both sides of the argument. my intention is to hear and discuss first hand accounts. with people you have dealt with or maybe your own experiences. I made this thread after coming to the realization that my friends who smoke all the time every time we hang out are incredibly annoying. People just seem to be really clumsy uninformed and into "conspiracy theories" this is just my account.


And yes lol, I've found that potheads are far more likely to be cuckoo conspiracy theorists. It's kind of funny to be honest.

Sorry for triple post, just wanted to keep the ideas separated.

Quote (kalelvszod @ Nov 6 2014 08:51pm)
most of the time they are looking for the heavy drugs. You know how many ppl would be unemployed if they gave a shit bout marijuana prolly 70% of north americas population maybe more lol


Maybe you've never had a job, but every employer I've ever encountered that drug tests includes marijuana in the test and will not hire you if you test positive.

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Nov 6 2014 10:18pm
Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head. The only thing i see is people who do tolerate it mentally just become kinda stupid when smoked a real lot. I agree with people being good and bad candidates for it. I also agree that they can be completely fanatical and take an irrational defensive stance against it they act as if it has no cons at all. When even Vitamin c and to much potassium has pros and cons. I feel like marijuana premotes delusional thinking because it causes them to stay in the same thought loop over and over gain.

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