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Apr 18 2014 02:27am
So the faster you go, the slower time goes.

is the opposite true? essentially im thinking something like the hyperbolic time chamber from dragon ball Z where 1 day outside is 1 year inside, but more so im thinking of massive fields where a cow would take a week to mature and tomates would go from seed to fruit overnight.

and if this is true, how would this be accomplished? If we created something like an artificial planet right outside earths orbit to orbit the sun 1 per every 4 earth years, would the difference in orbit of the sun be enough to speed up time for anything on the artificial planet such that there would be a noticeable difference in time between people on earth and people on the artificial planet, or would we practically have to be stopped relative to the universe and light years from any source of gravity for time to accelerate to the point that we could plant the seeds, spend a night on earth, and come4 back the next day to a fully grown plant?
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Apr 18 2014 09:46am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Apr 18 2014 01:27am)
is the opposite true
Not really (at least not in the way you are thinking).

t is the time experienced by an object at rest, t' is the time experienced by the quickly moving object. If you plug in 0 for v, you find that t = t'

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or would we practically have to be stopped relative to the universe
The universe does not have a velocity you can be stopped relative too.

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light years from any source of gravity
Your body is a source of gravity.


What you could do is put your plants somewhere, then fly around in a space ship or whatever at a rate close to the speed of light (c=1, v=.99999) for what you think is 1 day (t' = 1). Then come back to the plants and find that they experienced a much greater amount of time (t would be about 224 days in this example).


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Apr 20 2014 01:24pm
time is relevant to space, bend space, you bend time? soo to sit in one spot in space is to jump out of time as we messure it.Like falling into a blackhole vacuum i would guess.




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Apr 20 2014 01:31pm
well T is going to be that of the stationary object in relation to the earth.

so youd calcualted the roation and orbit speed of the earth together, and that would be V^2

something like 30.44 KM/s = .0001% the speed of light ^2 = .00000001 or .000001% increase in time right?

so if t prime = 100000 second we would expericen on earth the object would experience 100001 seconds.

I think my math is wrong, but with your help ive figured out the equation to answer my qyuestion on my own.

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something like 30.44 KM/s  = .0001% the speed of light ^2 = .00000001 or .000001% increase in time right?

so if t prime = 100000 second we would expericen on earth the object would experience 100001 seconds.
I think you dropped a couple zero's somewhere. I got 100,000 seconds -> 100,000.001 seconds. But yeah, you are on the right track!

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well T is going to be that of the stationary object in relation to the earth.
Setting up an object like this would be extremely problematic; but assuming you could do it, then what you calculated above (without minor mistakes) would give you the right answer. This effect has actually been measured with atomic clocks and air planes. Essentially flying one clock around on an air plane for a while then comparing to one that was on the ground the whole time. The one on the ground will have experienced slightly more time.
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I think you dropped a couple zero's somewhere. I got 100,000 seconds -> 100,000.001 seconds. But yeah, you are on the right track!

Setting up an object like this would be extremely problematic; but assuming you could do it, then what you calculated above (without minor mistakes) would give you the right answer. This effect has actually been measured with atomic clocks and air planes. Essentially flying one clock around on an air plane for a while then comparing to one that was on the ground the whole time. The one on the ground will have experienced slightly more time.


Thanks.

I realized that the speed difference has to be a lot greater so ive been thinking about time relative to an object at the edge of the universe in comparison to earth and how the expansion of the universe would influence time. but really i'm just making myself more confused. Like something where there is a worm hole and you can travel from one point to the other instantly, if you spend 5 mins at one point, how does the uniform expansion of the universe factor in to calculate how much time passes at the other point, or does it not factor in because they are expanding away from each other at the same rate?

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May 25 2014 02:28am
Quote (doomchaser @ Apr 20 2014 11:24am)
time is relevant to space, bend space, you bend time? soo to sit in one spot in space is to jump out of time as we messure it.Like falling into a blackhole vacuum i would guess.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZfx7iwq94

Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity (Chapter 3): Space-Time And The Speed Of Light


That would b scary
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