This is a purely an attempt to discuss a idea that is looking to happen, so please keep religion out of this!


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Definitions

Civilizations:

Type I: Ranging from a civilization similar to ours ranging from our earlier intelligence, to a civilization that has not much more technology than us. Ahead of us by 100 years at most. We are a Type I civilization.
Type II: Interstellar travel - advanced technology and intelligence as compared to ours. Ability to destroy our planet and existence, but would not be able to do so very quick at all.
Type III: Intergalactic travel - Unbelievable technology compared to the average human interpretation. Weapons that could destroy our existence with a thought.


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Now that we know that there are Earth-like planets that exist "locally", and that mathematically we know life must exist somewhere else in a universe that is theoretically 93+ billion light-years across, scientists are planning to try and contact them throughout this year and into the next.

Even though it could take a decade to receive information, or possibly even sooner (depending on their technology).

With the fear of the conquering of our planet, as well as the extinction of Earth-Life as we know it, a lot of physicists, one of the main ones including Hawking, seem "scared" of this idea.

I was thinking about the whole concept, and I think that we shouldn't be scared at all (considering that we are only wanting and able to send communications to these "local" planets).


My input on this concept is this.

Our farthest ability to have man travel has been the moon (as far as we believe or know). Although that is relatively true, we have the ability to peer throughout the galaxy and observe these Earth-like planets, and think about the life on those planets. Basically, the technology exists to observe planets that are light-year's away, and we have only been able to take man on a round-trip to a celestial object that is 3.84 E5 km away.

So, if these particular planetary civilizations have the technology to travel in interstellar proportions (Type II), then what would have kept them from observing us long before when their technology was similar to ours, and traveling to us now (using the our magnitude of the observe/travel scale)? If any of them were a Type III civilizations, then it should follow that we would have already been doomed, considering our ability to find them. They would have already found us and either destroyed us or gave us insight. I don't think that these civilizations would really need our minerals or resources, because I am assuming that these civilizations would already be able to be close to mastering energy.

I am not saying that these type III civilizations do not exist, but if they do exist, then they wouldn't be anywhere near our location, even on the galactic scale. When you look at the galactic travel in terms of the scale of our observable universe, considering the fact that there are billions of galaxies, even the type III civilizations with the capabilities of galactic travel wouldn't be able to find such a small planet as ours.

What about you guys? What do you think about this event?



Another idea:

We stop at Type III, because a Type IV civilization is unimaginable to our intelligence (So i believe).

Now a Type III civilization would be able to harness all of the benefits of E=mc^2, and would have conquered all of the physics that we can currently put into perspective. In that case, what would be next? If there is a civilization that can understand how the universe functions, time travel, and can travel to different parts of the universe, then what would be the next step? AI that can at unbelievable speeds put combinations of molecules together to create life? If the Higg's Field is in fact true (not valid as it is now, considering truth is relative to perspective), have the ability to reverse "creation" of matter itself. Or even further, finding and conquering loopholes in the fundamental laws of physics, just as we do to try and defy nature itself, in order to CREATE matter. It might be a pointless creative idea to think of these things in this lifetime, but it of course doesn't hurt.

This post was edited by Archer on Dec 21 2013 12:59pm

This does seem like a silly notion. Considering how young our scientific knowledge is and how much we already know about planets around other stars it seems pretty unlikely that a race capable of interstellar travel that anywhere close to us(ie 1000's of lighyears) would not have already found us. It seems unlikely another race would want to conquer/destroy us at all, what would be their motive? If you can travel between stars it seems like the abundant life on earth would be more valuable for research if nothing else than any sort of mineral resource that could almost certainly be found elsewhere.

It seems unlikely that the white man would want to conquer/destroy us at all, what would be their motive? If you can travel between continents it seems like the abundant life on North America would be more valuable for research if nothing else than any sort of mineral resource that could almost certainly be found elsewhere.

This is the reason that most people are skeptic. It is very likely because we are the same species and we can't even get along with each other.

I feel like it would be a crazy even to happen though. We could learn their linguistics and exchange different theories about the universe if said species is intelligent enough. They could have found pieces of the puzzle that we have been unable to find, and vice versa. If either species were to see each other as enemies, it would be stupid and it would definitely show proof of our demise......

I see what you did there... I don't think its accurate at all though. The Americas represent a little over 25% of the worlds landmass this is quite different compared to space where there are hundreds/thousands of other solar systems to explore/exploit. I don't see what benefit aliens would get from enslaving us, a race this advanced is bound to have advanced robotics that would perform any labor tasks much better and cheaper/efficiently than a human could. I can't imagine what resource we have that would be rare enough to be worth transporting hundreds/thousands of light years.

It's because were the same species. Homosapiens are difficult and rowdy as a species. But you can assume that if they are smart enough to figure out interstellar travel that they would be smart enough to leave us alone. We are a train wreck as a species

wtf are you talking about, a higgs bosons have been created already at CERN.

See above, this is already being done daily.

see above, matter is created in labs all the time.

I don't mean small amounts.

And when did they physically discover it? I saw a lecture last month about the knowing of it's existence, but I didn't hear anything about someone physically creating it in the Hadron.

No one can explain explain how life originated on earth...The answer is simple: This planet was SEEDED! By whom? By what?

To "discover" one, you have to detect one. To detect one, you must make one. It was announced in March that it has been done.