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Oct 19 2013 08:47pm
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/19/david-birnbaum-jeweller-philosopher

guess he made the big mistake of trying to look respectable rather than just creating a youtube video
else we would have already seen many posts about him

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Quote (Azrad @ 26 Sep 2013 00:45)
So you post something specifically for only 1/2 of the  Science, Technology and Nature users? You elitist!


my apologies to be so elitist to post another time something which requires reading ;)
the article quoted takes a few minutes to read but points out a few things
and some of the comments are worthwhile in themselves as well

hope some of those who love crackpot science/philosophy take the time to read and attempt to understand it
so that i am not just 'preaching to the converted' with this thread
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Oct 20 2013 12:52am
There is a funny quote from that article:
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As a critic of Wertheim's book put it, "You might as well study French literature and not learn how to read or speak French, [then] whine about the fact that your ideas are not taken seriously by the 'priesthood'."

reminds me somewhat of something I told doomchaser once:

Quote (Azrad @ Mar 30 2013 04:06pm)
Your criticism of something you are fundamentally ignorant about makes about as much sense as any criticism I might offer someone who is translating 15th century French poetry. The reality is, I wouldn't have a clue if they were translating it perfectly or totally wrong.


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Oct 21 2013 10:27pm
can you summarize the main idea please? i dont have time to read all that but i read the first couple paragraphs and it caught my interest
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Oct 22 2013 07:06am
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can you summarize the main idea please? i dont have time to read all that but i read the first couple paragraphs and it caught my interest


if you really have read a couple paragraphs you would know what it is about and wouldn't want the pleasure of reading the rest be spoilt by being given a summary B)
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Oct 22 2013 03:39pm
Quote (Clicquot @ Oct 21 [2013 11:27pm)
can you summarize the main idea please? i dont have time to read all that but i read the first couple paragraphs and it caught my interest


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The universe itself is potential, actualising itself.


kind of the just of it i suppose lol
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Oct 22 2013 05:13pm
Quote (TeaRs- @ 22 Oct 2013 21:39)
kind of the just of it i suppose lol


that is the idea of david birnbaum but not the main idea of the article :baby:
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Oct 22 2013 05:32pm
maybe he solved the mystery of existence of jewelers
who read the book ? :)
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Oct 22 2013 09:18pm
Quote (brmv @ Oct 22 2013 06:13pm)
that is the idea of david birnbaum but not the main idea of the article  :baby:


i only made it about half way through the article, i plan on finishing it tomorrow morning on the way to work lol. so far thats what i got of it though
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