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Oct 10 2013 10:21pm
The Universe offers a paradox far too great for the finite mind to grasp. As the living brain cannot conceive of a non-living brain, although it may think it can, the finite mind cannot grasp the infinite. One might take the end of a pencil and magnify it. One reaches the point where a stunning realization strikes home: the pencil-tip is not solid; it is comprised of atoms which whirl and revolve like a trillion demon planets. What seems solid to us is only a lose net held together by gravity. Viewed at their actual size, the distance between these atoms becomes leagues, gulfs, aeons. The atoms themselves are comprised of nuclei and revolving protons and electrons. One may step down further to subatomic particles. And then to what? Tachyons? Nothing? Of course not. Everything in the universe denies nothing; to suggest an ending is the one absurdity. If you fell outward to the limit of the universe, would you find a board fence and signs reading DEAD END? No. You may find something hard and rounded, as the chick must see the egg from the inside. And if you should peck through that shell (or find a door), what great and torrential light might shine through your opening at the end of space? Might you look through and discover our entire universe is but one atom on a blade of grass? Might you be forced to think that by burning a twig you incinerate an eternity of eternities? That existence rises not to one infinite but to an infinity of them? Maybe the greatest mystery in the universe is not life, but size.


The majority of this is quoted directly from a book but I was curious as to what responses this would receive, i would love to hear your opinions on what is essentially the "multiverse theory".
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Oct 10 2013 10:25pm
irrelevant and idc.

humans are irrelevant if you want to start looking at the big picture so what we think is irrelevant. we will never know any answers of that scale so stop worrying about it.
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Oct 10 2013 10:29pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 10 2013 11:25pm)
irrelevant and idc.

humans are irrelevant if you want to start looking at the big picture so what we think is irrelevant. we will never know any answers of that scale so stop worrying about it.


Did I say I was worrying about it? It may be true that if we start looking at the possibility of a infinitude of universes that what we think no longer matters, because size would encompass our relevance in the matter. But as for MYSELF I am not an infinitude of universes, and am merely curious as to what the opinions of the people in this forum would be pertaining to this matter.

Nothing is wrong with scientifically based philosophical speculation, and i'd like to hear some speculation on this particular subject. Nothing more, nothing less.

This post was edited by TheCrimson on Oct 10 2013 10:40pm
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Oct 11 2013 12:06am
Your point about there being eons inside atoms isn't technically correct.
While the gap of empty space might be large compared to the particles your talking about it's still not an eon worth of space.
You could compare the % amounts but the actual distances are vastly different.

It would be like saying the gap between six inch is the same as the gap between a mile.
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Oct 11 2013 12:22am
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The Universe offers a paradox far too great for the finite mind to grasp. As the living brain cannot conceive of a non-living brain, although it may think it can, the finite mind cannot grasp the infinite. One might take the end of a pencil and magnify it. One reaches the point where a stunning realization strikes home: the pencil-tip is not solid; it is comprised of atoms which whirl and revolve like a trillion demon planets. What seems solid to us is only a lose net held together by gravity. ...


please show me your experiments or provide a link to prove that the pencil tip is held together by gravity - or did you mean by graffiti?
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Oct 11 2013 12:22am
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. One might take the end of a pencil and magnify it. One reaches the point where a stunning realization strikes home: the pencil-tip is not solid; it is comprised of atoms which whirl and revolve like a trillion demon planets. What seems solid to us is only a lose net held together by gravity. Viewed at their actual size, the distance between these atoms becomes leagues, gulfs, aeons. The atoms themselves are comprised of nuclei and revolving protons and electrons. One may step down further to subatomic particles. And then to what? Tachyons? Nothing? Of course not.
This isnt how it works.

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If you fell outward to the limit of the universe, would you find a board fence and signs reading DEAD END? No. You may find something hard and rounded, as the chick must see the egg from the inside.

Probably just more universe. You know the universe is expanding right? And you move at a finite speed conveniently called c.

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The majority of this is quoted directly from a book but I was curious as to what responses this would receive, i would love to hear your opinions on what is essentially the "multiverse theory".

what does this quote have to do with multiverse theory?
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Oct 11 2013 02:22am
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the pencil-tip is not solid; it is comprised of atoms which whirl and revolve like a trillion demon planets. What seems solid to us is only a lose net held together by gravity.
:rofl:
You have any idea how weak gravity is?

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Oct 11 2013 02:51am
That was a quote from a book, I didn't say it was scientifically correct, it was merely an intro to the discussion of a topic about the multiverse theory
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Oct 11 2013 03:00am
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That was a quote from a book, I didn't say it was scientifically correct, it was merely an intro to the discussion of a topic about the multiverse theory


wow - did you just copy/paste or read it before you posted it here?
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Oct 11 2013 03:27am
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wow - did you just copy/paste or read it before you posted it here?


No I read it, I was actually reading "The Dark Tower" series by Stephen King (I actually cut QUITE a bit out of the part from the book in the OP, didn't feel like typing it all and a lot of it didn't pertain to the subject)

As i said in the OP, "The majority of this is quoted directly from a book but I was curious as to what responses this (this being the theory, not the quote) would receive, i would love to hear your opinions on what is essentially the "multiverse theory"."

The quote has absolutely nothing to do with what this post is about, it's merely an introduction as aforementioned.

To sum up the quote and cut out the fictional crap, (basically the multiverse theory is fictional anyway since it's impossible to prove if it is even real with our current technology) What are your opinions on the idea that there is not just one universe, but an infinite amount of infinite universes.

This post was edited by TheCrimson on Oct 11 2013 03:30am
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