but why does it had to have come from something? why not could it have just been there? and there was nothing before it, nor anything after it?

Albert Einstein said, "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
He also said, upon his work at the subatomic level, and quantum weirdness (real term) that life had to come from a creator, and not only life, but the whole universe.
I might add that Albert Einstein was not faithful to any religion.


my question pertains to;


Perhaps there is a "God" particle that creates friction, creates dust...

Said particle existing somehow in a way that we could never comprehend..

Maybe that is how we got confused and thought there was a man in the clouds?


how in the hell would we confuse that? we would first have to discover such a particle and then mistake it with a man in the clouds. LET ALONE we "cant even comprehend" so we wouldn't be able to discover it to mistake it in the first place.


please do research on quantum science before trying to make ANY judgements on the universe, because it completely undermines all classical science and everything you where taught in school.


the one thing anyone in quantum study can agree on, is subatomic particles are hiding something from us, through their "divine" behavior. i suggest you research how particles behave when observed and not observed.

reality has effectively been proven to be an illusion, which reminds me of this quote;

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."




might i suggest starting at the double slit experiment



This post was edited by GrindTime on Feb 17 2012 07:54pm

have you ever thought of what if there was nothing?

space and time laws if it is correct is outside of the walls of our universe is nothing

not like theres an empty box nothing there is no space to be filled there is no box there is nothing no time no space

This post was edited by mcbatch on Feb 18 2012 02:26am

the universe has always been and always will be

no beginning, no end, an endless cycle with us in the middle, reliving our lives over and over again eternally



yea ok, as if that info disproved anything

This post was edited by Wyrmvater on Feb 18 2012 08:39am

Why? What does that mean? "Outside the universe" makes perfect sense to you, but to me it sounds like total baloney.

The universe (or universes if you must) encompasses everything. It contains the very definition of what, where, and when. To ask what the non-universe is like is nonsensical.

This post was edited by Derkaderk on Feb 18 2012 11:01am

again, we have encountered a limit on a subatomic level. we have proven 3 things. 1 is that the human brain isnt even capable of fully understanding what goes on at a subatomic level
2 is, these particles are literally engineered to keep us in the dark, to hide information from us, its a full blown ruse.
3 is, you can know measurement 1 of a particle, or measurement 2 of a particle, however you cannot know both measurements.

God created universe like 4000 years ago, bible says so

You may enjoy watching this video that sort of addresses this subject:



Unfortunately it doesn't include the question/answer session after his presentation