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Feb 17 2012 04:48pm
I've pondered for a long time.. How did our universe come to be?

I soon discovered simple theories which made sense but it still left me to wonder..

There had to be something that it came from. You can't make fire without friction.. What rubbed together to spark it up?

Spoiler alert, I do not believe in God and I believe science to be our only saving grace, but...

Perhaps there is a "God" particle that creates friction, creates dust...

Said particle existing somehow in a way that we could never comprehend..

Maybe that is how we got confused and thought there was a man in the clouds?

I'd like to hear what other people think.

I know we're probably too stupid as humans to understand but I really need something to rest my head.
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Feb 17 2012 04:56pm
but why does it had to have come from something? why not could it have just been there? and there was nothing before it, nor anything after it?
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Feb 17 2012 05:20pm
Quote (hq78 @ Feb 17 2012 10:56pm)
but why does it had to have come from something? why not could it have just been there? and there was nothing before it, nor anything after it?


Because I can't believe that due to the information I've come across over the years. There must be something out of this universe, surely?
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Feb 17 2012 07:46pm
Albert Einstein said, "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
He also said, upon his work at the subatomic level, and quantum weirdness (real term) that life had to come from a creator, and not only life, but the whole universe.
I might add that Albert Einstein was not faithful to any religion.


my question pertains to;


Perhaps there is a "God" particle that creates friction, creates dust...

Said particle existing somehow in a way that we could never comprehend..

Maybe that is how we got confused and thought there was a man in the clouds?


how in the hell would we confuse that? we would first have to discover such a particle and then mistake it with a man in the clouds. LET ALONE we "cant even comprehend" so we wouldn't be able to discover it to mistake it in the first place.


please do research on quantum science before trying to make ANY judgements on the universe, because it completely undermines all classical science and everything you where taught in school.


the one thing anyone in quantum study can agree on, is subatomic particles are hiding something from us, through their "divine" behavior. i suggest you research how particles behave when observed and not observed.

reality has effectively been proven to be an illusion, which reminds me of this quote;

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."




might i suggest starting at the double slit experiment



This post was edited by GrindTime on Feb 17 2012 07:54pm
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Feb 18 2012 02:24am
have you ever thought of what if there was nothing?

space and time laws if it is correct is outside of the walls of our universe is nothing

not like theres an empty box nothing there is no space to be filled there is no box there is nothing no time no space

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Feb 18 2012 08:38am
the universe has always been and always will be

no beginning, no end, an endless cycle with us in the middle, reliving our lives over and over again eternally

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Because I can't believe that due to the information I've come across over the years. There must be something out of this universe, surely?


yea ok, as if that info disproved anything

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Feb 18 2012 10:54am
Quote (Taniwha @ Feb 17 2012 05:20pm)
Because I can't believe that due to the information I've come across over the years. There must be something out of this universe, surely?


Why? What does that mean? "Outside the universe" makes perfect sense to you, but to me it sounds like total baloney.

The universe (or universes if you must) encompasses everything. It contains the very definition of what, where, and when. To ask what the non-universe is like is nonsensical.

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Feb 18 2012 01:08pm


again, we have encountered a limit on a subatomic level. we have proven 3 things. 1 is that the human brain isnt even capable of fully understanding what goes on at a subatomic level
2 is, these particles are literally engineered to keep us in the dark, to hide information from us, its a full blown ruse.
3 is, you can know measurement 1 of a particle, or measurement 2 of a particle, however you cannot know both measurements.


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Feb 18 2012 06:37pm
God created universe like 4000 years ago, bible says so
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Feb 18 2012 07:08pm
You may enjoy watching this video that sort of addresses this subject:



Unfortunately it doesn't include the question/answer session after his presentation :(
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