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Jan 7 2012 05:50am
What's the most wet that ice can be?
And how could it be this wet?
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Jan 7 2012 06:43am
ice is not wet, water is wet.
if you melt ice, it gets water and therefore wet.
if you call a combination of ice and water also "ice", then its wet because it contains (liquid) water.
this wettest "ice" would be therefore very very much water with a little bit of ice in it.
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Jan 7 2012 08:53am
Quote (Richter @ Jan 7 2012 03:43pm)
ice is not wet, water is wet.
if you melt ice, it gets water and therefore wet.
if you call a combination of ice and water also "ice", then its wet because it contains (liquid) water.
this wettest "ice" would be therefore very very much water with a little bit of ice in it.


you probably forgot all these phases that occur at higher pressures, there's many types of ice (from I to VII at least, iirc)

but then again, I don't understand the question to begin with. How wet can ice be.. ehh

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you probably forgot all these phases that occur at higher pressures, there's many types of ice (from I to VII at least, iirc)
but then again, I don't understand the question to begin with. How wet can ice be.. ehh


Nope, I didn't forget them. I just dont know them xD (Yes, I know plasma, and I know that the states of matter of an element depend on the preasure, etc...)

But you are talking about the phases of water? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Phases )

I'm talking about the 3 classical states of an element, a.e. water: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_matter#The_three_classical_states

I bet the questioner was outside and thought: Why this snow is so wet now? I've seen snow that was so awesome powdery... Let's ask jsp! ;)
(and therefore I somehow answered those questions, without thinking more ;) )
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Jan 7 2012 08:05pm
Quote (Richter @ Jan 7 2012 11:17am)
Nope, I didn't forget them. I just dont know them xD (Yes, I know plasma, and I know that the states of matter of an element depend on the preasure, etc...)

But you are talking about the phases of water? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Phases )

I'm talking about the 3 classical states of an element, a.e. water: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateofmatter#Thethreeclassicalstates

I bet the questioner was outside and thought: Why this snow is so wet now? I've seen snow that was so awesome powdery... Let's ask jsp! ;)
(and therefore I somehow answered those questions, without thinking more ;) )


Water is not a state of matter, liquid is. :( And there are four states of matter, not three. Solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.

This post was edited by AEtheric on Jan 7 2012 08:24pm
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Water is not a state of matter, liquid is. :(  And there are four states of matter, not three. Solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.


thanks! thats what i wanted to write ;)
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Jan 7 2012 09:17pm
Quote (Richter @ Jan 7 2012 12:17pm)
Nope, I didn't forget them. I just dont know them xD (Yes, I know plasma, and I know that the states of matter of an element depend on the preasure, etc...)

But you are talking about the phases of water? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Phases )

I'm talking about the 3 classical states of an element, a.e. water: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_matter#The%5Fthree%5Fclassical%5Fstates

I bet the questioner was outside and thought: Why this snow is so wet now? I've seen snow that was so awesome powdery... Let's ask jsp! ;)
(and therefore I somehow answered those questions, without thinking more ;) )


Shit goes weird at low pressures and temperature. Look up a phase diagram of Helium near absolute 0
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Jan 7 2012 10:43pm
Quote (Richter @ Jan 7 2012 07:43am)
ice is not wet, water is wet.
if you melt ice, it gets water and therefore wet.
if you call a combination of ice and water also "ice", then its wet because it contains (liquid) water.
this wettest "ice" would be therefore very very much water with a little bit of ice in it.


well if there was a lot of water with a little ice in it, wouldn't the water be the only wet part and the ice itself would be no more wet than any other ice?
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Jan 8 2012 09:18am
Quote (kayeto @ 8 Jan 2012 05:43)
well if there was a lot of water with a little ice in it, wouldn't the water be the only wet part and the ice itself would be no more wet than any other ice?

exactly :)
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Jan 8 2012 08:51pm
Quote (Richter @ Jan 8 2012 10:18am)
exactly :)


so how wet is the most wet that ice could ever be under the optimal conditions?
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