One of the problems with CMB theory is that IF it is the
most distant thing we can see, (a remnant of the Big Bang)
then we should observe the silhouettes of galaxy clusters and
other major cosmic structures imposed on this image, which
we do not:
Lieu R, Mittaz JPD, Zhang S-N. The sunyaev-zel'dovich effect in a
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Radio astronomy data now reveals that what astronomers
call CMB radiation from the far edge of the visible universe,
is actually likely to be electromagnetic noise occurring in our
own cosmic neighborhood. Electric currents flowing in
plasma naturally generate radio noise right across the spectrum,
so the CMB could well be a type of local 'radio fog'

Where plasma double layers form in space 'radio noise'
increases, thereby giving the appearance of a relative 'hot
spot' which astronomers have tended to interpret in exotic
ways, such as pulsars, mysterious x-ray sources, neutron
stars, quasars, etc. but which are in fact quite understandable
by considering the effects of plasma interaction. Electromagnetic
hot spots 'strangely' match the pattern of measured
temperature hot spots in the most detailed mappings of the
CMB:

Verschuur GL. High galactic latitude interstellar neutral hydrogen
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In 2000 Verschuur, with leading plasma physicist Anthony
Peratt, used the concept of critical ionization velocity
(CIV), first introduced by Alfvén, to explain neutral hydrogen
(HI) emission from gas in the local interstellar environment.
“An effective means for producing CIV in interstellar
space involves the relatively little known plasma phenomenon
in space called the Marklund convection mechanism”
[29].
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Outrageous statements such as “Pulsars are almost perfect spheres made up of neutrons and contain more mass than the sun in an object only 10 km in radius” are presented as facts with no empirical support other than a complex, rapidly pulsating signal. Meanwhile, plasma scientists have been able to model such complex signals as transmission line oscillations in a normal stellar magnetosphere, triggered by arc discharges. Their results “support the 'planetary magnetosphere' view where the extent of the magnetosphere, not emission points on a rotating surface, determines the pulsar emission” [20]

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Abstract. Surface brightness data can distinguish between a Friedman-Robertson-Walker expanding universe and a non-expanding universe. For surface brightness measured in AB magnitudes per angular area, all FRW models, regardless of cosmological parameters, predict that surface brightness declines with redshift as (z+1)-3, while any non-expanding model predicts that surface brightness is constant with distance and thus with z. High-z UV surface brightness data for galaxies from the Hubble Ultra Deep Field and low-z data from GALEX are used to test the predictions of these two models up to z=6. A preliminary analysis presented here of samples observed at the same at-galaxy wavelengths in the UV shows that surface brightness is constant, μ =kz0.026+ 0.15, consistent with the non-expanding model. This relationship holds if distance is linearly proportional to z at all redshifts, but seems insensitive to the particular choice of d-z relationship. Attempts to reconcile the data with FRW predictions by assuming that high-z galaxies have intrinsically higher surface brightness than low-z galaxies appear to face insurmountable problems. The intrinsic FUV surface brightness required by the FRW models for high-z galaxies exceeds the maximum FUV surface brightness of any low-z galaxy by as much as a factor of 40. Dust absorption appears to make such extremely high intrinsic FUV surface brightness physically impossible. If confirmed by further analysis, the impossibility of such high-μ galaxies would rule out all FRW expanding universe (big bang) models.

Evidence for a Non-Expanding Universe:
Surface Brightness Data From HUDF
Eric J. Lerner

After 31 views no one is going to reply?

I would love to man, I just lack the proper knowledge to make a fair discussion over it

Which sucks, because this seems really interesting.

I will say this though:



That statement seems pretty shaky to me. First off, we can't view the expanse's edge with our technology. Second, everything's in constant motion, so pinpointing the edge and being able to focus on it long enough to view the energies is a feat we are currently unable to achieve.

I dunno... That statement seems to be a pretty poor way to disprove expansion.

It is possible to capture images with the WMAP or whatever it is he's referencing that captures the CBR. Just look at this:

Alignment of CBR with the Local Supercluster
The largest angular scale components of the fluctuations(anisotropy) of the CBR are not random, but have a strong preferred orientation in the sky. The quadrupole and octopole power is concentrated on a ring around the sky and are essentially zero along a preferred axis. The direction of this axis is identical with the direction toward the Virgo cluster and lies exactly along the axis of the Local Supercluster filament of which our Galaxy is a part. This observation completely contradicts the Big Bang assumption that the CBR originated far from the local Supercluster and is, on the largest scale, isotropic without a preferred direction in space. (Big Bang theorists have implausibly labeled the coincidence of the preferred CBR direction and the direction to Virgo to be mere accident and have scrambled to produce new ad-hoc assumptions, including that the universe is finite only in one spatial direction, an assumption that entirely contradicts the assumptions of the inflationary model of the Big Bang, the only model generally accepted by Big Bang supporters.)


Therefore, if the CBR is the remnant of the big bang, then we should see large scale structures reflected in their capacity to shoot out, reflect, or absorb heat.

well just have to wait until we can accurately measure neutrinos to find out about the remnants of the big bang

I'll bite. Why should we expect to see silhouettes of galaxies in the CMB? The predictions they are saying should exist should follow from some physical laws so can you find me somewhere where they go through the theory (the math not the hand waiving) which suggests this stuff?

I'm not actually willing to google this stuff myself unfortunately, but I'll try to parse through the math if you link it.

This post was edited by darkfire on Jan 6 2012 12:55am

One vital test of the present cosmological paradigm is the search for scattering of the CMB by
foreground structures such as clusters of galaxies. Such observations can provide important
information both about clusters of galaxies as well as basic cosmological parameters like H0.
For the CMB, scattering arises from the Compton interaction with free electrons in the hot
(X-ray temperature) plasma of clusters of galaxies, which removes Rayleigh-Jeans black body
flux in the direction to a cluster and leads to an apparent decrease in the CMB temperature
- a phenomenon known as the Sunyaev-Zel’dovich effect (SZE). By now, the degree of SZE
is highly predictable for many clusters of galaxies, because their hot intracluster medium
(ICM) properties are well measured by X-ray satellite missions.


Here's the math if you want it:

http://iopscience.iop.org/0004-637X/648/1/176/pdf/0004-637X_648_1_176.pdf

This post was edited by AEtheric on Jan 6 2012 07:32pm

Well the result is interesting enough, but this is what frustrates me about physics papers. I read through the paper looking for the math and there really isn't any. The journals place so much emphasis on brevity that the experimentalists just cut the theory out completely.

The author did write out a few integrals that are supposed to give the predicted values (as an aside some of these do not even look well posed to me, but I assume practicing physicists would know what is intended) then said what the answer you get is with reference. I could probably go hunt down the references where they do the computations to figure out what the integrals mean, but I really don't care enough for that.

This post was edited by darkfire on Jan 7 2012 01:23am

Neutrinos and the sub-particles which they are sure to contain. All the way down to strings.

There was no big bang if the CMB or CBR is simply the local interstellar medium.



String theory is a purely speculative unsupported hypothesis.