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Aug 12 2011 01:27pm
As we all know, the human body produces a magnetic field. Even though it is small, could one possibly make an inertia dampener with superconductors since they repel magnetic fields. Lets say you are in space, and your encased in a shell inside of a space shuttle or ship made out of super conductors. When you start accelerating forward, could you pump enough electricity into one side of the shell to equalize the effect of inertia, or does super conductors not gain a larger effect on magnetic fields when more electricity is pumped into them like regular magnets?
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Aug 12 2011 02:46pm
The electromagnetic field of the human body is incredibly small. If it weren't, we wouldn't be able to use most technological devices that we have because we'd be generating incredible amounts of interference (have you ever seen the movie Powder? Something like that). So no, what you're describing is not possible using magnetic fields (or anything else that I'm aware of). "Inertia dampeners" are purely science fiction.
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Aug 12 2011 10:02pm
Ok I am just going to take a wild guess and assume an inertia dampner supposedly works by causeing every cell in your body to move along with the field, and because all of the cells are moving in unison there is no felt inertia.


If I am remotely correct, Then in a way it could be done, however it would take a MASSIVE EMF. Its kinda like that one massive magnet they used to make non ferrous objects hover (apples, dice, a frog, ect). That said I only gather bits of info here and there so chances are I am wrong (beentheredonethat dont flame me to hard please ;) )
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Aug 12 2011 10:28pm
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Ok I am just going to take a wild guess and assume an inertia dampner supposedly works by causeing every cell in your body to move along with the field, and because all of the cells are moving in unison there is no felt inertia.


If I am remotely correct, Then in a way it could be done, however it would take a MASSIVE EMF. Its kinda like that one massive magnet they used to make non ferrous objects hover (apples, dice, a frog, ect). That said I only gather bits of info here and there so chances are I am wrong  (beentheredonethat  dont flame me to hard please ;) )

I only flame when people repeatedly ignore science and continue in their ignorance, stubbornly refusing to learn. There's no harm in being mistaken. That's just part of the learning process. Nobody knows everything, after all :)

The strength of magnetic field you would need to counteract a person's inertia is so incredibly large that it'd disrupt all internal systems. I mean just look at the floating frog. That's a 10 Tesla magnetic field and is required to counteract the gravitational force on the frog's mass. We would need a much, much larger magnetic field to counteract a significantly larger mass (human beings) experiencing a much, MUCH larger inertial force.

When you consider what it means to "dampen" inertia, it means you need to create a force on the bodies inside the moving vehicle that is exactly equal to the force that is causing the vehicle's deceleration (if it were greater than the deceleration, it would cause the person to move backward inside the vehicle; if it were lesser, the person would move forward in the vehicle just like when you're slowing down in a car and you feel yourself push against the seat belt).


For example, let's say you're in a car moving 30 mph and you take 5 seconds to brake to a complete stop. That means your acceleration is -2.682 m/s^2, and on a 75kg person, you would feel an average inertial force of 735 Newtons. An average frog has a mass of about 30 grams. This translates into a gravitational weight of about 0.3 Newtons. So what does this mean? A force that is 670 times greater than the force used to levitate the frog would need to be applied in order to cancel out the person's inertia in a slow-moving car taking a decent amount of time to come to a complete stop.

Granted, there will be some factors I'm not including here, like I'm sure there will be some dampening caused just by the atmospheres inside the ships and all that, but seeing as the speeds involved in space travel are far, FAR greater than 30 mph, I feel incredibly confident in stating that you'd need a big-ass magnetic field to get the job done. If we ever try it, I hope we have some great EM shielding for all of the electronics.
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Aug 12 2011 10:30pm
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I only flame when people repeatedly ignore science and continue in their ignorance, stubbornly refusing to learn. There's no harm in being mistaken. That's just part of the learning process. Nobody knows everything, after all :)

The strength of magnetic field you would need to counteract a person's inertia is so incredibly large that it'd disrupt all internal systems. I mean just look at the floating frog. That's a 10 Tesla magnetic field and is required to counteract the gravitational force on the frog's mass. We would need a much, much larger magnetic field to counteract a significantly larger mass (human beings) experiencing a much, MUCH larger inertial force.

When you consider what it means to "dampen" inertia, it means you need to create a force on the bodies inside the moving vehicle that is exactly equal to the force that is causing the vehicle's deceleration (if it were greater than the deceleration, it would cause the person to move backward inside the vehicle; if it were lesser, the person would move forward in the vehicle just like when you're slowing down in a car and you feel yourself push against the seat belt).


For example, let's say you're in a car moving 30 mph and you take 5 seconds to brake to a complete stop. That means your acceleration is -2.682 m/s^2, and on a 75kg person, you would feel an average inertial force of 735 Newtons. An average frog has a mass of about 30 grams. This translates into a gravitational weight of about 0.3 Newtons. So what does this mean? A force that is 670 times greater than the force used to levitate the frog would need to be applied in order to cancel out the person's inertia in a slow-moving car taking a decent amount of time to come to a complete stop.

Granted, there will be some factors I'm not including here, like I'm sure there will be some dampening caused just by the atmospheres inside the ships and all that, but seeing as the speeds involved in space travel are far, FAR greater than 30 mph, I feel incredibly confident in stating that you'd need a big-ass magnetic field to get the job done. If  we ever try it, I hope we have some great EM shielding for all of the electronics.



Lol ok, yeah I figured it would take one hell of a magnectic feild to do it, I was just saying theoreticlly its possible ^_^
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