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Nov 28 2010 12:41am
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1308977765978236346#

if you have related information on the subject, id be glad to read / watch / hear it. thank you.

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Nov 28 2010 01:13am
Ive read a lot about this

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/02/23/why-the-china-study-is-flawed.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/Metabolic-Typing-Diet-Customize-Chemistry/dp/0767905644

You can read the book itself

There is a lot of research debunking a lot of the claims of the china study
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Quote (Toothfariy @ Nov 28 2010 12:13am)
Ive read a lot about this

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/02/23/why-the-china-study-is-flawed.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/Metabolic-Typing-Diet-Customize-Chemistry/dp/0767905644

You can read the book itself

There is a lot of research debunking a lot of the claims of the china study


cool thanks.
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Nov 28 2010 06:24pm
Quote (Toothfariy @ Nov 28 2010 07:13am)
Ive read a lot about this

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/02/23/why-the-china-study-is-flawed.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/Metabolic-Typing-Diet-Customize-Chemistry/dp/0767905644

You can read the book itself

There is a lot of research debunking a lot of the claims of the china study


There is not a lot of research that debunks the china study because the china study is partly based off of previous studies and is a sound study in itself. You're probably one of those morons who thinks that high cholesterol diet is not conducive to heart disease.

None of those links actually brought up valid arguments. Dr. Mercola didn't quote studies that refuted what the china study did, he simply gave his opinion. I would like to see how that book that you linked directly addresses and refutes the china study.

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There is not a lot of research that debunks the china study because the china study is partly based off of previous studies and is a sound study in itself. You're probably one of those morons who thinks that high cholesterol diet is not conducive to heart disease.

None of those links actually brought up valid arguments. Dr. Mercola didn't quote studies that refuted what the china study did, he simply gave his opinion. I would like to see how that book that you linked directly addresses and refutes the china study.


dietary cholesterol has absolutly nothing to do with blood triglycerides and blood cholesterol...
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dietary cholesterol has absolutly nothing to do with blood triglycerides and blood cholesterol...


several studies have now shown, in both experimental animals and in humans, that consuming animal-based protein increases blood cholesterol levels. Saturated fat and dietary cholesterol also raise blood cholesterol, although these nutrients are not as effective at doing this as is animal protein. In contrast, plant-based foods contain no cholesterol and, in various other ways, help to decrease the amount of cholesterol made by the body.
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several studies have now shown, in both experimental animals and in humans, that consuming animal-based protein increases blood cholesterol levels. Saturated fat and dietary cholesterol also raise blood cholesterol, although these nutrients are not as effective at doing this as is animal protein. In contrast, plant-based foods contain no cholesterol and, in various other ways, help to decrease the amount of cholesterol made by the body.


saturated fat increases HDL production, which is obviously not a problem. Its the small dense LDL particles that cause cardiovascular problems. Mainly refined carbohydrates do this. Dietary cholesterol has absolutly nothing to do with the cholesterol your body makes. Just because its the same word doesnt mean it carries the same metabolic process.

Cholesterol is essential to live. Without it we would be dead. We have a problem of cardiovascular disease because of things like Dr. Pepper, and Little Debbies. Dont blame the saturated fat. If any fat is to blame, its transfat. Anyone with a brain can recognize that transfat CLEARLY cause heart disease.
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saturated fat increases HDL production, which is obviously not a problem. Its the small dense LDL particles that cause cardiovascular problems. Mainly refined carbohydrates do this. Dietary cholesterol has absolutly nothing to do with the cholesterol your body makes. Just because its the same word doesnt mean it carries the same metabolic process.

Cholesterol is essential to live. Without it we would be dead. We have a problem of cardiovascular disease because of things like Dr. Pepper, and Little Debbies. Dont blame the saturated fat. If any fat is to blame, its transfat. Anyone with a brain can recognize that transfat CLEARLY cause heart disease.


A change in diet in addition to other lifestyle modifications may help reduce blood cholesterol. Avoiding animal products may decrease the cholesterol levels in the body not only by reducing the quantity of cholesterol consumed but also by reducing the quantity of cholesterol synthesized. Those wishing to reduce their cholesterol through a change in diet should aim to consume less than 7% of their daily calories from saturated fat and less than 200 mg of cholesterol per day.

source: "Dietary Guidlines for Americans 2005" (PDF). United States Department of Agriculture. Retrieved 2010-07-28.

The fact of the matter is that dietary cholesterol increases blood cholesterol.
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Nov 30 2010 11:07pm
This has been known for quite some time.
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A change in diet in addition to other lifestyle modifications may help reduce blood cholesterol. Avoiding animal products may decrease the cholesterol levels in the body not only by reducing the quantity of cholesterol consumed but also by reducing the quantity of cholesterol synthesized. Those wishing to reduce their cholesterol through a change in diet should aim to consume less than 7% of their daily calories from saturated fat and less than 200 mg of cholesterol per day.

source: "Dietary Guidlines for Americans 2005" (PDF). United States Department of Agriculture. Retrieved 2010-07-28.

The fact of the matter is that dietary cholesterol increases blood cholesterol.


Only ~30% of the population, termed "hyperresonders", show an increase in blood chloesterol levels after eggs. But there is an equal increase in both HDL and LDL chloesterol meaning that the ratio is unaffected.

Fernandez ML. Dietary cholesterol provided by eggs and plasma lipoproteins in healthy populations. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2006;9:8-12.



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