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Nov 10 2010 04:09am

it might be a ltitle bad so far

but it's just the first page and I will continue to add pages to it .

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Nov 10 2010 09:06am

crap

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Quote (lone500 @ Nov 10 2010 10:06am)

crap

i mean thats like only the introduction.

i'll also be talking about why i think that science is turning the wrong way and has been for almost 3000 years?, i mean we advanced in technology and are figuring out how to live "better" but only science that benefits life as a whole is worth studying and researching.
i feel like we are being held back because people (especially white people) are trying too hard to understand how to benefit themselves artificially that they are ignoring the consequences of what they are doing. (I mean, whose idea was it to expand their territory and stick a flag into places, making up rules just to claim things as theirs?) We can progress much more quickly in science if we spend less time researching how to create lasers to rid of things, and spend more time researching life (because life must be balanced, so where there is a disease, there is a cure for it in nature, we just have to find it). Nature is infinately smarter than we are. That's why medicine comes from plants. They are there for us to use, but we spend too much time trying to figure out HOW it works and HOW to recreate it when we can spend more time finding more like it.

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Nov 10 2010 10:54am

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=49814147&f=169

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science does not believe in god, the reason why the "Indians" had less diseases were due to the fact that they weren't surrounded by many diverse cultures from around the world. once Europeans came to the America's disease ran epidemically through all the "Natives". if ya want some more info or discussion lmk im up for this. Since i am a man of science (not a scientist, but i want to become one), don't get me wrong i do believe in a "higher being" ("God")

nice

if you do want to believe in a higher being, you can. IT DOESNT necessarily have to be God though, this is what i'm saying. it's like, the mind controls your body. the mind is a higher being. in a way, the mind is like a God..right?
and maybe that is true. maybe the natives had less diseases because of less diverse cultures, but they had already found the cures for most of the diseases they were vulnerable to. but then europeans came, and distorted everything, but were too stupid to do what the natives did, and so diseases spread more quickly but not enough people were looking for cures through natural plants, instead they spend too much time trying to understand how these plants serve as medication . and because of this we are really far behind in discovery

also don't forget the Natives' understanding of why things worked, we live in a time where we can look at something under a microscope and actually see the infection or whatever is attacking the body, the Natives saw any illness or plague as an act from god and hence their understanding is somewhat blurred because of this, yes they had "cures" for diseases but we have cures for those same diseases now, plus the diseases that the could not "cure" ie, small pox, bubonic plague, we get shots to protect us from them.
i am not really into the science of genetics/biology i am more a man of physics and astronomy.

k but we only have cures for those same diseases because we interpreted what they did and tried to recreate it for ourselves, and then take credit for everything. those diseases that couldnt be cured was due to use right? because we hadnt been spending as much time researching nature..we had a major setback (and i think this could relate to adam and the apple), we decided we want to understand HOW things work because it may be better for us in the long run....i mean its helped us so far, we were able to understand tiny microbes and tiny particles, but i feel like we've been heading in the wrong direction. (similar to a sin) i mean, okay so as long as we used our technology to study life then we are heading towards the right direction. but using our technology to create something that would benefit us superficially is just wasting our time. the universe is expanding, evolution is happening with both diseases and plants and animals. so if we were to do more research on LIFE we would understand how to cure things rather than researching on how plants benefit us. why do we need to know how they work? why cant we just know that they work, and maybe know why they work..that way we would be advancing. at this rate, we will run out of plants to figure out how they work..and then we will basically be running out of resources...but at this rate we will all die quickly anyway

but they are studying nature and life, its just that they haven't found an answer to that, but they can find answers to other questions. In science there is a saying, "we find an answer to one question, which asks four more questions" or something along the lines of that.

well i'm not saying that they arent. i'm saying that they arent spending enough time on it. i mean, in the early 1900s a lot of things had been discovered. they found answers to things that occur in nature. ie light and gravity and all this other stuff, but now we're spending more time on creating things that would make living better for us, but better in a sense of living, not life. i was just thinking, maybe we should be spending more time on proving God's existence, rather than spending time trying to extend our life-cycle. we are already destroying the earth so we're not necessarily helping life, we are just helping ourselves. if God actually exists and we prove that then more people will believe in him, and if more people believe in him, then maybe more people will help the world by trying to understand life?

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Nov 10 2010 12:30pm

if we lived a longer life span i believe that would change us in itself.

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Nov 10 2010 12:41pm

Nature is infinately smarter than us.
The only logical reason for the big bang is if there is an infinate amount of energy in the world.
The mind can live without the body, but the body cant live without the mind.

- life cant live without energy, mind = energy
- infinate amount of energy in the world = infinate wisdom , nature contains this infinate wisdom

people say God is a greater being with infinate intelligence, God is nature.
we don't have to prove that nature exists, we know it does.

father of toxicology said that anything can be toxic, its just the dosage that determines the toxicity.
but can you have too much intelligence? - for us, yes. because too much intelligence led us to commit sins? and in doing so we have infected the earth?
can nature/God have too much intelligence? no, because there is never too much of something that is infinate right? BUT maybe some of that intelligence can be transferred?

maybe nature gave us enough time to try and understand it, but we spent too much time in the wrong direction, so when the next mass extinction occurs, nature
will wipe out anything that doesnt benefit it, and try transferring some of that intellgence to a being that will understand?

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if we lived a longer life span i believe that would change us in itself.

but theres no need to. that's not why we are here

if we studied nature we would be better off. how did we know that if we are hungry, we need to eat?

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Nov 10 2010 12:46pm

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is it up to you to say why we are here?

damn we in the wrong forum bro. should be in philisophical forum for this

also you should watch the anime "blue gender". its right up your alley.

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Nov 10 2010 12:52pm

Two things, really. Number one: Your grammar is terrible. You should double-check all of your tense agreements, and just avoid using semi-colons altogether since you're not using them correctly. Number two: Your argument is that a person that doesn't believe in God is arrogant, and that they should be open-minded. Isn't it equally arrogant and closed-minded to assume YOUR system of beliefs is the only correct one?

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Nov 10 2010 12:52pm

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is it up to you to say why we are here?

damn we in the wrong forum bro. should be in philisophical forum for this

also you should watch the anime "blue gender". its right up your alley.

nope it's not up to me to say why we are here

but, i mean, i think that's what we should spend our science trying to figure out

but, the reason we are here should be the same reason all other life forms exist

i'm not really into anime

but, if it's a short series i dont mind checking it out

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Quote (bentherdonethat @ Nov 10 2010 06:52pm)

just to clarify my post this was more of what i meant.

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nope it's not up to me to say why we are here

but, i mean, i think that's what we should spend our science trying to figure out

but, the reason we are here should be the same reason all other life forms exist

i'm not really into anime

but, if it's a short series i dont mind checking it out

science is good but in the end we can only look inside ourselves to truly find out why we are here.

that anime is only about 26 episodes long. not extremely short as some animes but not as extremely long as some either (200+ episodes).
Its basicaly about nature evolving a predator to curb mankinds numbers. its pretty cool shit. and the ending gives you some food for thought.

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