what's with this thing? everything I've looked into is easily debunked as far as I can tell. I am not in anyway familiar with any of this except doing some research for a friend who got paranoid about it so I looked some stuff up to give her some actual facts.
A lot of what I read stating the supposed orbit of this fake planet would put it near enough to easily pick it up by even a non government telescope and it would be everywhere. not only that but we should also be seeing a very noticeable gravitational pull
already that would be causing tidal and other problems wouldn't we?

If it was close enough to earth to influence tides we would see it much like the moon. Since there is not another randhat moon in the night/day sky then its safe to assume that it is no where near us. As for the belief that a planet would move from beyond pluto and impact earth is just retarded.

Don't believe their lies. Nibiru is coming to kill us all, they're just trying to hide it from you.

don't get me wrong I don't believe an ounce of it. I am just trying to get some actual facts down. If this so called planet taking 3600 years to make one very bizarre rotation around the sun and then coming in between mars and Jupiter in the near future (2012) then it would be at the tail end of it's journey and should be viewable. (it's not)
But shouldn't we also see some sort of gravitational pull somewhere? considering Pluto even has an impact on alignment then something that close should already be showing some sort of sign. (there's not as far as I know)

This post was edited by Falendar on Sep 26 2010 04:44am

if this were true the orbits of jupiter and saturn would already be altered by previous passes (which would have happened over 1 million times since our solar system formed).
humans have existed several of these (make-believe) revolutions and so far we are fine.
as for finding planets, we are still finding large objects on the other side of pluto, there is too much space to cover and these objects are very dim due to not much sunlight reflecting.

This post was edited by juliusjuice on Sep 26 2010 12:33pm