The entire nuclear theory of an atom rests upon 2 assumptions that are completely illogical
1) rutherford's scattering expierements proved the existence of a nucleus
2) radioactivity proves that electrons are one of the components of matter

now since none of u have the logic to figure it out for yourself, ill explain it in plain words even a moron could understand

what evidence did rutherford have to conclude that the small massive points were the nucleus of the atom, and not the atom its self? none, the size of atoms was assumed becuase scientists of the day thought that atoms were "touching" in solid matter, had a little space in liquid and lots of space in gas, but atoms don't touch in solid matter as scientists now know today, but still cling to this illogical theory of a nucleus

The small massive points were THE ATOM. NOT THE NUCLEUS.

radioactivity produces, alpha particles which turned out to be positivly charged helium atoms which were proven to not be one of the building blocks of an atom
it also produces photons (gamma particles) which are assumed to not be a building block of the atom
and produces electrons (beta particles), yes, the experiemental electrons that can be measured and controlled in particle acceleraters are PRODUCED by radioactivity.
not to be confused with the concept of the nuclear electron predicted by quantom quackery, that cannot be measured, and has never been observed or proven to exist

Scientists simply assumed electrons to be part of the atom even though they know that none of the other particles produced by radioactivity are. wtf is this bullshit and how the fuck is it in every science text book.

SO WHY DO 2 DIFFERENT PARTICLES WITH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROPERTIES HAVE THE SAME NAME? ONE BEEN PROVEN TO EXSIST AND SIMPLE ASSUMED TO BE PART OF THE ATOM FOR NO REASON, THE OTHER TO ONLY EXIST IN THE ABSTRACT THEORY OF QUANTOM QUARKARY.

YOU TELL ME

This post was edited by elitepie on Aug 21 2010 01:29pm

im sorry but this seems more like you dont understand more than they made mistakes. im not going to say i can explain w/e you are getting at but i can pretty much guarantee you are confused on some level.

uhm, are trying to say electrons are not part of the atom? you need to take a chemistry class because the entire field of chemistry is basically the transfer of electrons from one atom to another

plz enlighten me, but u cant becuase u dont know shit.



YES. not only are they NOT part of the atom, they dont even EXIST

let's see..you can't comprehend basic english since i already said i'm not an authority on the matter so i cannot explain it anymore in depth that a science book would.

you are calling years of scientific research false based on your own misunderstanding which is clearly evident.

WHAT IM SAYING IS THEY SPENT OVER 50 YEARS COLLECTING DATA BUT CAME TO ERRONEOUS CONCLUSIONS.

THEY HAVE ALL THE FACTS, WHAT THEY NEED IS THE CORRECT THEORY TO DESCRIBE IT

lmk when you are more qualified to make that decision than all those involved.

THE SCIENTISTS INVOLVED EVEN ADMIT THIS. BUT THEY HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A NEW THEORY YET SO THEY OLD SHIT ONES ARE STILL IN PLACE. AND I QOUTE

Weizsaecker says, “Quantum theory does not explain the characteristic properties of the different sorts of elementary particles which we know to-day. It is, therefore, certain that it must be supplemented by a new, as yet unknown theory.”

I CAN QUOTE MORE QUANTOM SCIENTISTS IF U WANT. THEY ALL KNOW ITS BULLSHIT, BUT THEY CANT FUCKIN FIGURE OUT WTF IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING

if you would read your own statements you would realize that its still current theory because as you claim they can't find a better one at the moment. thats the answer you are seeking apparently.

im just trying to get people to open their eyes and stop eating the spoon fed bullshit from shows like THE UNIVERSE or Morgan freeman's (wtf? morgan freeman? rofl) through the wromhole or INTO THE UNIVERSE WITH STEVEN (THE JOKE OF A SCIENTIST THAT NEVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING) HAWKING


THOSE SHOWS PRESENT ONE SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT AS FACT LOL

This post was edited by elitepie on Aug 21 2010 02:08pm