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Sep 23 2009 11:23pm
There is no actual purpose of life, what we call time is irrelevant. at one point our conceivable 'universe' was made up of the 4 natural powers (gravity, electromagnetism, weak and strong nuclear powers)

a split second before the big bang our universe as we know it was a bubble a fraction the size of an atom. before the 'bang' gravity broke off from this tiny EXTREMELY hot bubble and created 'inflation' which seeded the whole universe with gas's (which would turn into the 1st stars) the inflation was soo quick it was faster then the speed of light. the way this was possible is because since gravity broke off 1st, the rule that nothing can go faster then the speed of light didnt exist yet. fractions of a second after gravity broke off, so did the other natural powers, which cooled the universe by half. the spreaded gases caused by the inflation slowly (from the center where the 'big bang' happened) stars would form and the left over gas/dust particals came together to creat planets moons and all other comets and everything else floating around in each solar system.


two things were created after the big bang, because we dont ACTUALLY know what these things are scientists call them dark energy and dark matter.

Dark energy is basicly the power admitted from the 'bang' it constantly keeps the universe expanding.

Dark matter is an invisible mass, more massive then any partical we can see. dark matter is the mass that keeps galaxies in check (instead of them expanding themselves) it also keeps the universe from expanding too quickly. think of it as a net made of rubberbans surrounding the whole universe.. the more dark energy pushs out the more stretched out the dark matter becomes.. soon the universe will expand passed the limits of the dark matter and we will be so far from the 'middle' of the universe that there will be no heat and everything will freeze.


this all proves there is no 'purpose of life' we are more of a science project in a never ending beaker... the real question is... who is the scientist? and is this the only beaker? saddly something human kind will never know...
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Sep 24 2009 12:00am
i really hope ppl take the time to read all that.. i have some other theorys about the creation and the end or never ending cycle of the universe...

FINALLY a place i can talk about my veiws without it going over all my friends heads...
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Sep 24 2009 09:21am
What are your theories of the creation of the universe? Just out of curiosity.
I don't believe a destructive force such as the "big bang" could have started a universe so complex and well designed as ours. Design demands a designer and besides, abiotic factors cannot become biotic
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Sep 24 2009 02:20pm
Quote (Highway95 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 08:21am)
What are your theories of the creation of the universe? Just out of curiosity.
I don't believe a destructive force such as the "big bang" could have started a universe so complex and well designed as ours. Design demands a designer and besides, abiotic factors cannot become biotic


Don't forget all those years ago it didn't start much but a few spheres gravity and all those other things everything else happened over 'time'
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Sep 24 2009 02:38pm
Quote (bryman49 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 05:23am)
There is no actual purpose of life, what we call time is irrelevant. at one point our conceivable 'universe' was made up of the 4 natural powers (gravity, electromagnetism, weak and strong nuclear powers)

a split second before the big bang our universe as we know it was a bubble a fraction the size of an atom. before the 'bang' gravity broke off from this tiny EXTREMELY hot bubble and created 'inflation' which seeded the whole universe with gas's (which would turn into the 1st stars) the inflation was soo quick it was faster then the speed of light. the way this was possible is because since gravity broke off 1st, the rule that nothing can go faster then the speed of light didnt exist yet. fractions of a second after gravity broke off, so did the other natural powers, which cooled the universe by half. the spreaded gases caused by the inflation slowly (from the center where the 'big bang' happened) stars would form and the left over gas/dust particals came together to creat planets moons and all other comets and everything else floating around in each solar system.


two things were created after the big bang, because we dont ACTUALLY know what these things are scientists call them dark energy and dark matter.

Dark energy is basicly the power admitted from the 'bang' it constantly keeps the universe expanding.

Dark matter is an invisible mass, more massive then any partical we can see. dark matter is the mass that keeps galaxies in check (instead of them expanding themselves) it also keeps the universe from expanding too quickly. think of it as a net made of rubberbans surrounding the whole universe.. the more dark energy pushs out the more stretched out the dark matter becomes.. soon the universe will expand passed the limits of the dark matter and we will be so far from the 'middle' of the universe that there will be no heat and everything will freeze.


this all proves there is no 'purpose of life' we are more of a science project in a never ending beaker... the real question is... who is the scientist? and is this the only beaker? saddly something human kind will never know...


uhh, seems that there would be a purpose to life if the last thing of what you said is true about us being a science project. It doesn't matter who the scientist is, i just hope we don't fail the test.
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Sep 24 2009 05:14pm
Quote (Highway95 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 07:21am)
What are your theories of the creation of the universe? Just out of curiosity.
I don't believe a destructive force such as the "big bang" could have started a universe so complex and well designed as ours. Design demands a designer and besides, abiotic factors cannot become biotic


Quote (Highway95 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 07:21am)
What are your theories of the creation of the universe? Just out of curiosity.
I don't believe a destructive force such as the "big bang" could have started a universe so complex and well designed as ours. Design demands a designer and besides, abiotic factors cannot become biotic


the big bang doesnt necessarily mean an actual explosion happened, it is just a way to describe it the best humans can.

think of it like this, IF you are saying at one point there was nothing in space, it was just an empty black nothingness, a singularity formed.(this is just a word to say we dont know how or why it formed)
this singularity is something humans will never be able to understand, how something theoretically formed from this nothingness.

anyway, when this tiny bubble of the universe formed it was the the hottest and most dense thing that has ever been (in our conceivable universe) when gravity broke off as i explained, it seeded our universe with gases. when the other forces broke off, it sent all of the mass this tiny super dense bubble contained into the young newly seeded universe. this 'bang' as they call it produced dust particals which, because of gravity, were pulled together to create the early make up of rock. the bigger the rock got the more gravitational pull it had/ the more 'dust' and gas it pulled in. this is what created stars... (the gas was hydrogen, when 2 hydrogen molecules fuse it turns it into helium) that mixed with the iron created from the bigger rocks running into eachother is what made nuclear fussion (what is going on in our sun even today) the left overs that didnt go into the newly created sun is what made solar systems.


NOW after knowing all that and how the 1st base chemicals / materials were formed we can go into what created all the different chemicals / materials that exist today.

the answer is simple... super novas, star dust. think of it like i said before... a universal science project, instead of thinking 'oh there are too many different kinds of chemicals and matter (including living matter) for it all to come from 1 single thing' think of it as, ok you are the scientist doing the project... WE, along with everything else are the finding, the billions of years of chemical reactions and study (by the scientist) the proof is everywhere... everything... everyone. we are all the years and years of base chemicals mixed with w/e new chemicals were created by different chemical reactions.


how living matter came from non living matter... thats a WHOOOLE different story that we may never know the end to.

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Sep 24 2009 05:15pm
Quote (Technicity @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 12:20pm)
Don't forget all those years ago it didn't start much but a few spheres gravity and all those other things everything else happened over 'time'


gravity was created when the universe was.. all 4 natural powers were.
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Sep 24 2009 05:18pm
Quote (rchau @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 12:38pm)
uhh, seems that there would be a purpose to life if the last thing of what you said is true about us being a science project. It doesn't matter who the scientist is, i just hope we don't fail the test.


youre right... there is a purpose to life.. the purpose to life for humans and anyother living matter is simply to live. we are mold on a tiny rock, our purpose is simply to do what we need to, to survive..
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Sep 24 2009 05:40pm
Quote (Highway95 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 07:21am)
What are your theories of the creation of the universe? Just out of curiosity.
I don't believe a destructive force such as the "big bang" could have started a universe so complex and well designed as ours. Design demands a designer and besides, abiotic factors cannot become biotic


i didnt really tell you any of my theorys... i got into the other part of what you said, lol.


just a couple things iv pondered, what if instead of a tiny bubble.. it was all of the mass that has ever been in, all in 1 inconceivably big mass. this still leaves you with a singularity, what made this mass? what caused it to explode?

also another theory with the same basic concept, every separate base chemicals / matter was just floating around in space in its own mass. then because of gravity, they slowly all got pulled into the one with the biggest mass which caused something that would be similar to a super nova. which like the big bang theory, seeded the universe

ALSO this is my last and favorite theory to ponder... might not make a whole lot of sense but i like to think of it this way..

matter as we know it is made of atoms at the smallest point, but in a universe without living matter size (other then for gravity) is irrelevant. there is always something bigger, atoms make up matter.. matter makes up solar systems, solar systems make up galaxies, galaxies make up universes. there is always something bigger.. so in the case of a multiverse... what does the gathering of universes make up? and even father what is beyond that... is our universe really just the 'atoms' of some larger form of matter.... is that matter god? when does it stop..

these are all things i like to think about sometimes... and actually until now iv never expressed these thoughts... they go waaay over my friends heads lol

funny to think i didnt even graduate from highschool... though... neather Einstein... i have nooo where near that much knowledge, but i am not dumb.. (other then for not finishing highschool @.@)
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Sep 24 2009 05:44pm
Quote (bryman49 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 04:15pm)
gravity was created when the universe was.. all  4 natural powers were.


Yeah thats what I'm saying everything else but those four were created over time like life on earth
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